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SeattleUte · 08-10-2007, 08:22 PM

It seems to me that Bronco was a lot luckier than Whittingham in the sense that he inherited a seasoned NFL prospect quarterback and otherwise a full cupboard, and retained continuity in most of the coaching staff. Whittingham had to rebuild his coaching staff, start a freshman qb who got seriously injured requiring Whittingham to throw a little recruited JC into the breach for the last two games of his first season and all his second season (I think those last two games of Whittingham's first season were a coaching masterpiece, considering the adversity, but I digress). The team Whittingham took over also had lost numerous other key skill position and other important players. Yet Whittingham came within a whisker of being 2-0 against Bronco. Has Bronco proven himself?

Indy Coug · 08-10-2007, 08:22 PM

No, he hasn't proven himself.

MikeWaters · 08-10-2007, 08:23 PM

I thought Ratcliffe was going to be a NFL quarterback. According to that one website.

TheSizzle36 · 08-10-2007, 08:31 PM

No. Not yet. He has taken steps in the right direction... but he isn't 'there' yet. I like what he has done, but in all honesty, he should have won with last year's squad.

bYuPride · 08-10-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

It seems to me that Bronco was a lot luckier than Whittingham in the sense that he inherited a seasoned NFL prospect quarterback and otherwise a full cupboard, and retained continuity in most of the coaching staff. Whittingham had to rebuild his coaching staff, start a freshman qb who got seriously injured requiring Whittingham to throw a little recruited JC into the breach for the last two games of his first season and all his second season (I think those last two games of Whittingham's first season were a coaching masterpiece, considering the adversity, but I digress). The team Whittingham took over also had lost numerous other key skill position and other important players. Yet Whittingham came within a whisker of being 2-0 against Bronco. Has Bronco proven himself?

Whitt was also a within a whisker of being 0-2 against Bronco..

cougjunkie · 08-10-2007, 09:06 PM

my answer is not on there. How about "the jury is still out, but he has taken steps in the right direction" kind of a no/yes notyet/maybe

Indy Coug · 08-10-2007, 09:10 PM

BYU71 has officially made his presence known:

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All he has to do is field a team HC compliant and law abiding that graduates.

Insensitive PAP · 08-10-2007, 09:12 PM

yet either. He's shown a willingness to change what isn't working, so I think he's on the right track. We'll find out this year how good he is as this is going to be the closest thing to a rebuilding year for the next 3 seasons.

RockyBalboa · 08-10-2007, 09:28 PM

Ask me not at the end of this season, but the 08' season.

I think 08' and 09' could very well set up for some very special football and possible BCS runs.

As for now I say it's simply too early to judge him completely one way or the other.

I want to see how his recruits pan out (although this will take longer), and I want to see how he re-builds after losing so many valuable Seniors.

Goatnapper'96 · 08-10-2007, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

It seems to me that Bronco was a lot luckier than Whittingham in the sense that he inherited a seasoned NFL prospect quarterback and otherwise a full cupboard, and retained continuity in most of the coaching staff. Whittingham had to rebuild his coaching staff, start a freshman qb who got seriously injured requiring Whittingham to throw a little recruited JC into the breach for the last two games of his first season and all his second season (I think those last two games of Whittingham's first season were a coaching masterpiece, considering the adversity, but I digress). The team Whittingham took over also had lost numerous other key skill position and other important players. Yet Whittingham came within a whisker of being 2-0 against Bronco. Has Bronco proven himself?

I think Bronco has not proven himself, but he has proven far more than Whittingham.

If Ute fans are less than impressed with Bronco, what hope can they honestly take from Whittingham?

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08-10-2007, 08:22 PM	#1
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	Has Bronco proven himself? It seems to me that Bronco was a lot luckier than Whittingham in the sense that he inherited a seasoned NFL prospect quarterback and otherwise a full cupboard, and retained continuity in most of the coaching staff. Whittingham had to rebuild his coaching staff, start a freshman qb who got seriously injured requiring Whittingham to throw a little recruited JC into the breach for the last two games of his first season and all his second season (I think those last two games of Whittingham's first season were a coaching masterpiece, considering the adversity, but I digress). The team Whittingham took over also had lost numerous other key skill position and other important players. Yet Whittingham came within a whisker of being 2-0 against Bronco. Has Bronco proven himself? __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster Last edited by SeattleUte; 08-10-2007 at 08:26 PM.

08-10-2007, 09:06 PM	#6
cougjunkie Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 5,741	my answer is not on there. How about "the jury is still out, but he has taken steps in the right direction" kind of a no/yes notyet/maybe __________________ LINCECUM!

08-10-2007, 09:12 PM	#8
Insensitive PAP Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 293	No, but he hasn't embarrassed himself. . . yet either. He's shown a willingness to change what isn't working, so I think he's on the right track. We'll find out this year how good he is as this is going to be the closest thing to a rebuilding year for the next 3 seasons.

08-10-2007, 09:28 PM	#9
RockyBalboa Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 7,297	Ask me not at the end of this season, but the 08' season. I think 08' and 09' could very well set up for some very special football and possible BCS runs. As for now I say it's simply too early to judge him completely one way or the other. I want to see how his recruits pan out (although this will take longer), and I want to see how he re-builds after losing so many valuable Seniors. __________________ Masquerading as Cougarguards very own genius dumbass since 05'.

08-10-2007, 08:22 PM	#2
Indy Coug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Between Iraq and a hard place Posts: 7,569	No, he hasn't proven himself.

08-10-2007, 08:23 PM	#3
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I thought Ratcliffe was going to be a NFL quarterback. According to that one website.

08-10-2007, 08:31 PM	#4
TheSizzle36 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,786	No. Not yet. He has taken steps in the right direction... but he isn't 'there' yet. I like what he has done, but in all honesty, he should have won with last year's squad.