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Are you stating the LDS belief in the termination of the Twelve Apostles, together with a failure to reconstitute the Quorum is a misnomer? The LDS concept of the Apostleship being lost is all but admitted but most of Christianity. The Roman Catholic Church doesn't even contest it, because none of the offices are "apostles", but rather bishops and cardinals. I'm rusty on my Catholic Church history and will change that, but what aspects of apostasy were absurd? To me, it's miracle, given the difficulty in teaching a broadbase of cultures, and the difficulty in diffusing teachings as much was preserved in terms of teachings. Only through modern transportation, recordings and communications is it possible for teachings to remain the same. Just the process of "copying" codices rendered the possibility of error very likely and common. What exactly is your point? If I read Talmage's "Great Apostasy", I no longer remember its contents.
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Didn't Martin Luther agree with distance by the Catholic Church and core policies? Or did I miss something there?
IMHO, it would have been impossible, given the status of transportation, communication and society for the pristine Christian Church to have remained the same. I stand in awe of the learning preserved by the successive societies that handed them down. However, "apostasy" is probably a great misnomer, as I don't see anything which indicates peoples intentionally tried to lose the pristine doctrines, but rather they were trying often to find out what they were.
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Seattle, do you wish that the Great Library at Alexandria had not been destroyed?
Wouldn't you be thrilled if it were able to be restored in its exact condition that it had before it burnt to the ground? If so, then by your own argument, you are as ridiculous as we are. You're painting with broad strokes here. We don't bemoan "Hellenization" in general. The Hellenization of the church itself we deem to have been a bad thing, tantamount to turning away from Christ's original teachings. That has no bearing on the 3,000 years of history.
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To the extent Hellenic thought changed Christ's teachings in a way not intended, then that is apostasy. To the extent priesthood authority was lost, I don't see a relation to Greek thought. That would have been more a Roman effort during the first century, than a Greek effot. Society would have existed, but we can't imagine its complexion without Hellenization.
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Perhaps folks are tired of discussing again and again what you feel is ridiculous.
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