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Old 10-05-2008, 01:34 AM   #11
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Mrs. FM and I went shopping and out to dinner during the afternoon session and just got home. So I am a slacker.
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Old 10-05-2008, 02:28 AM   #12
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I found tonight's meeting inspiring. Elder Uchtdorf's talk in particular was very moving.

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So far, women placed on pedestal in opening prayer ... Men are evil. Women are perfect. So far so good.
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Men dominating is not the way of the Lord.

Ironic given the fiercely patriarchal mormon system?

Women are compassionate.

Again playing up stereotypes.
Something of a man's soul is revealed who feels threatened by praise for a woman, particularly when that woman is his wife or his mother.

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And we're the ones being told how awful we are.
There were specific words of praise in most of the talks, but I remember President Monson's best. Paraphrasing:

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Old 10-05-2008, 02:41 AM   #13
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Why would Pres Eyring say that they went from being missionary farewells to just being talks because of the shear number of missionaries going out? I don't think that was the reason at all. My understanding was that they were getting so over the top that they had to back it off a little. I think most wards are looking for people to talk at sacrament, it's not like these farewells were taking valuable time from people that needed to be talking in church. I found that a little strange.
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Old 10-05-2008, 02:49 AM   #14
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Why would Pres Eyring say that they went from being missionary farewells to just being talks because of the shear number of missionaries going out? I don't think that was the reason at all. My understanding was that they were getting so over the top that they had to back it off a little. I think most wards are looking for people to talk at sacrament, it's not like these farewells were taking valuable time from people that needed to be talking in church. I found that a little strange.
Over the top may have something to do with it too, but when this first came out (maybe 15 years ago?, we were told it was from sheer volume. Some of the larger wards were doing either farewells or homecomings nearly every week.

Things like reception lines outside the chapel, and skipping the rest of church after a farewell have always been discouraged so far as I know.
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Old 10-05-2008, 03:03 AM   #15
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Over the top may have something to do with it too, but when this first came out (maybe 15 years ago?, we were told it was from sheer volume. Some of the larger wards were doing either farewells or homecomings nearly every week.

Things like reception lines outside the chapel, and skipping the rest of church after a farewell have always been discouraged so far as I know.
The Church has changed the protocol for farewells mulltiple times in my lifetime. The first came shortly before my mission in '71. The reason given for cutting back was because of the Vietnam War and, with a number of FYM heading off to war, the Church didn't have farewells for them so it was thought to be uncool to honor those who were going on missions instead.

In '66, my older brother had a special program (my dad said the program list looked more like a state funeral than a sacrament meeting), followed by a reception in the cultural hall with refreshments and farewell gifts. Just a few years later, I was a ten minute Youth Speaker, followed by the regular speakers who had just moved into the ward. I spoke of how happy I was to be going to Austria. Three old ladies came up after, said how much they enjoyed my talk, and commented how lucky I was that I would see some kangaroos. I'm over it though. Sort of.
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Over the top may have something to do with it too, but when this first came out (maybe 15 years ago?, we were told it was from sheer volume. Some of the larger wards were doing either farewells or homecomings nearly every week.

Things like reception lines outside the chapel, and skipping the rest of church after a farewell have always been discouraged so far as I know.
Two years ago, my entire stake had 1 missionary in the field.

No, we are not overwhelmed with the numbers of missionaries going out in these parts.
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During Priesthood tonight I accomplished something new. Level 28 on Vortex.
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Old 10-05-2008, 04:30 AM   #18
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This thread is useless. I was hoping for an actual synopsis of priesthood meeting. I was at the SC game so I completely missed it.

I am enjoying being home watching the Dodgers rough up the Cubs en route to the NLDS, though.

I love Conference Weekend!
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Old 10-05-2008, 05:35 AM   #19
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I thought Uchtdorf's and Eyering's talks were very different from each other, and very good in their own way. Every 6 months I ask my son who his favorite speaker was in Priesthood session, and almost every time his answer in Uchtdorf. He reminds me of the Germans who take over the Nuclear plant in the Simpsons and try to act jolly and friendly (and I mean that in a good way).

I don't pay attention to Jay Jensen as a protest for him giving us a lecture at a bus stop while we were in the MTC, but my son liked him.

I fell asleep during the last one or two talks before the intermediate hymn, so I can't help you with those.

It was a good meeting, but after cursing at the Cubs for the last 3 hours, I think I have lost the Spirit.
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It was a good meeting, but after cursing at the Cubs for the last 3 hours, I think I have lost the Spirit.
I swear this team kills the ball all year and in a 3 game series we get outscored 23-7 by a team that has one legitimate hitter.

Soriano... great job batting 1-13 for the series..
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