Is homosexuality a sin?

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by UtahDan

Impulse v. action. The former is never a sin, but the latter can be.

This is a bit odd from the church's perspective, though, isn't it? How does it comport with scriptures about adultery where you have committed adultery in your heart (sinned) if you thought about it?

Isn't the church's position that homosexual feelings are not sinful tantamount to saying they are feelings you cannot possibly control?

[Surfah]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

This is a bit odd from the church's perspective, though, isn't it? How does it comport with scriptures about adultery where you have committed adultery in your heart (sinned) if you thought about it?

Isn't the church's position that homosexual feelings are not sinful tantamount to saying they are feelings you cannot possibly control?

That was what I was getting at and couldn't.

[jay santos]

Yes it is a sin. But most people who would be upset by that notion have the wrong understanding of sin.

[Gidget]

Yeah what if one was to seek the proper counsel for their homosexual thoughts and not feel relieved or make much progress? Does the Church as a whole believe that if you try hard "enough" that the thoughts WILL go away?

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Gidget

Yeah what if one was to seek the proper counsel for their homosexual thoughts and not feel relieved or make much progress? Does the Church as a whole believe that if you try hard "enough" that the thoughts WILL go away?

I'm not sure the church has a teaching specific to homosexual impulses. I think the doctrine is more general: that the impulses are temptation to sin and that the atonement is strong enough to overcome all temptation.

It's quite possible there are some temptations we must struggle with our lifelong. Homosexuality is not the only sinful desire people fight, but it seems to be the only one folks are interested in normalizing.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by Tex

I'm not sure the church has a teaching specific to homosexual impulses. I think the doctrine is more general: that the impulses are temptation to sin and that the atonement is strong enough to overcome all temptation.

It's quite possible there are some temptations we must struggle with our lifelong. Homosexuality is not the only sinful desire people fight, but it seems to be the only one folks are interested in normalizing.

Oh I don't know about that.

I'm interested in normalizing my desire to wanna to do it with a gal that I find funny and attractive, but according to many in the church leadership.....well nevermind.....

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Tex

I'm not sure the church has a teaching specific to homosexual impulses. I think the doctrine is more general: that the impulses are temptation to sin and that the atonement is strong enough to overcome all temptation.

It's quite possible there are some temptations we must struggle with our lifelong. Homosexuality is not the only sinful desire people fight, but it seems to be the only one folks are interested in normalizing.

Are we taking this too far?

Do we take the thoughts precede the action beyond its natural conclusions and beyond its pedagogical purpose?

[Surfah]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Oh I don't know about that.

I'm interested in normalizing my desire to wanna to do it with a gal that I find funny and attractive, but according to many in the church leadership.....well nevermind.....

She doesn't even have to be funny, just attractive.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Surfah

She doesn't even have to be funny, just attractive.

What does the Russian proverb, "All cats are gray at night" have to do with this?

[Surfah]

Originally Posted by Archaea

What does the Russian proverb, "All cats are gray at night" have to do with this?

Well there you go Rocky. She doesn't have to be funny or attractive.