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Old 09-28-2009, 12:29 AM   #1
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Your view on the rape of a child says a lot about who you are.

It's amazing how many people are willing to dismiss it.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:44 PM   #2
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Oh.My.Goodness.

Someone is trotting out the "Holocaust Defense" for Roman Polanski.

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He can be blamed, it is true, for his original, panicky decision to flee. But for this decision I see mitigating circumstances, not least an understandable fear of irrational punishment. Polanski's mother died in Auschwitz. His father survived Mauthausen. He himself survived the Krakow ghetto, and later emigrated from communist Poland.
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Un-freaking believable, a liberal feminist, no doubt and no less.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:54 PM   #3
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Your view on the rape of a child says a lot about who you are.

It's amazing how many people are willing to dismiss it.
As I understand the facts it's "rape" because the child was at the time a minor, therefore the sex was ipso facto not consensual because a minor is incapable of consensual sex with an adult. Joseph Smith could have been charged with the same crime. What is your view of that?
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As I understand the facts it's "rape" because the child was at the time a minor, therefore the sex was ipso facto not consensual because a minor is incapable of consensual sex with an adult. Joseph Smith could have been charged with the same crime. What is your view of that?
He plied her drugs and alcohol and she was thirteen. I can see using that defense if she were sixteen, but thirteen. Plus to compound matters he fled the country to avoid being heard in court. What a douche even though he's a quality film director.
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He plied her drugs and alcohol and she was thirteen. I can see using that defense if she were sixteen, but thirteen. Plus to compound matters he fled the country to avoid being heard in court. What a douche even though he's a quality film director.
Are you saying that some child rapes are worse than others? Some deserve punishment and condemnation and others don't?
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Are you saying that some child rapes are worse than others? Some deserve punishment and condemnation and others don't?

Nope, you did.

But you referenced statutory rape which is an inconsistent statutory determination in the twentieth century. I don't believe it existed in the 19th Century.
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Nothing statutory about it.

Looks like plain ol' rape to me. Drug the victim, rape the victim.
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Nothing statutory about it.

Looks like plain ol' rape to me. Drug the victim, rape the victim.
Agreed. And he was so certain of his innocence he has fled the country and refused to step foot in England or the US.

He was 45 at the time. I suppose, one could chalk it up to middle-aged senility or the Hollywood defense, "everybody drugs a girl to have sex." That must be the appeal to the movie jet set crowd.
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