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Yes, the OT God was violent and hateful; we should follow that example. | 4 | 21.05% | |
Perhaps, but we don't have the facts as they truly developed | 7 | 36.84% | |
No, this is a Hebrew tradition explaining a part of history for which we have no other evidence. | 7 | 36.84% | |
No, it was part of legend devised by Hebrews to scare their neighbors. | 1 | 5.26% | |
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06-20-2007, 03:44 AM | #41 |
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With you as a fundamental reductionist I am not surprised. jay's was a joke.
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1 Ne. 17:32-38
32 And after they had crossed the river Jordan he did make them mighty unto the driving out of the children of the land, yea, unto the scattering them to destruction. 33 And now, do ye suppose that the children of this land, who were in the land of promise, who were driven out by our fathers, do ye suppose that they were righteous? Behold, I say unto you, Nay. 34 Do ye suppose that our fathers would have been more choice than they if they had been righteous? I say unto you, Nay. 35 Behold, the Lord esteemeth all flesh in one; he that is righteous is favored of God. But behold, this people had rejected every word of God, and they were ripe in iniquity; and the fulness of the wrath of God was upon them; and the Lord did curse the land against them, and bless it unto our fathers; yea, he did curse it against them unto their destruction, and he did bless it unto our fathers unto their obtaining power over it. 36 Behold, the Lord hath created the earth that it should be inhabited; and he hath created his children that they should possess it. 37 And he raiseth up a righteous nation, and destroyeth the nations of the wicked. 38 And he leadeth away the righteous into precious lands, and the wicked he destroyeth, and curseth the land unto them for their sakes. Some of the LDS cross-references include Ex 34:11 ("I drive out before thee"), Josh 11:6 ("I deliver them all up slain"), and Josh 24:8 ("I destroyed them from before you"). Gee, Archaea, it sure sounds like Nephi was ratifying the Lord's command to destroy an entire people, but I'll be interested to see if your Urim and Thummim shows differently.
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And having a land cursed so that one loses one's grip is hardly an endorsement for mass murder. Read the nuance, New Mex guy.
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You asked for extra-Biblical scriptural evidence that God actually commanded such a deed, and I gave it to you.
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