The Church on the Wrong Side of History Again

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by SoCalCoug

The script is technically true, but misleading. Unfortunately for the church, well-informed people won't fall for the points of the script. Fortunately for the church, there aren't tons of well-informed people on those issues.

What a sad and ironic statement.

[Sleeping in EQ]

Originally Posted by CardiacCoug

Funny how some members have such a difficult time taking the Church leaders at their word when they express tolerance for mild and respectful dissent within the ranks. Most of said members are current or future Bishops and Stake Presidents.

I suspect that, for the most part, General Authorities aren't nearly as judgmental as are some of the people on CB. GA's don't want to cultivate disagreement, but I don't hear any GA demanding that members "agree with everything I say or get out!" or "If you don't agree with everything I say or don't do what I tell you, you aren't sustaining me!"

There are some real jackals on CB. Maybe, over time, life will knock some of that self-righteous indignation off of them.

[exUte]

Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar

I haven't even taken a stand against Prop. 8, but after saying nice (and accurate) things about my BIL, Morris Thurston, I was informed by one mullah that I would have to choose between the Church and my BIL.

I'm thinking, I'm thinking....

on this issue?

[Flystripper]

Originally Posted by exUte

on this issue?

Once again you are hard to understand because of your insistence of using the subject line, but I think I got the gist of your question.

Yes I do disagree with the first presidency on this issue. The first presidency are men and are not infallible. I believe that they are wrong in this instance. When I contemplate the idea of prop 8 passing and pray about whether I should support it, it makes me physically ill and I have no burning of the bosom so to speak. I cannot deny it. I am sure you will say I am possessed by Satan or some such thing. Maybe you will say that I am spiritually misguided, but I will have to disagree. I must stay true to those spiritual feelings that I have. They have served me well throughout my life.

Now go and chuckle to yourself and others about how misguided I am, I really don't care.

[Gidget]

Who was this Mullah? Do tell . . . .

[PaloAltoCougar]

Originally Posted by exUte

[First part of question omitted because author persists in typing first portion of each message in the title line, obviously relishing his board status as the annoying Chihuahua in the neighbor's backyard] on this issue?

If "not taking a stand" is "disagreeing", then I guess I am. My local leaders are okay with this.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar

If "not taking a stand" is "disagreeing", then I guess I am. My local leaders are okay with this.

you play so nicely with Exie, why is that?

Choose ye this whom ye shall serve, but as for me and my house, we shall serve Prop 8 or not.

[Gidget]

Yeah what's up with that ExUte? I am with PaloAltoCoug on this one, it is really annoying.

[PaloAltoCougar]

Originally Posted by Archaea

You play so nicely with Exie, why is that?

With MikeWaters as our father, brothers all are we.

Originally Posted by Archaea

Choose ye this whom ye shall serve, but as for me and my house, we shall serve Prop 8 or not.

Despite the admonition that we be hot or cold, I've always been big on room temperature. Plus, I still sing lustily the German hymn "Maessigkeit." Now, if I could only figure out how to type an umlaut and an eszett I'd be very happy. I am a philosophical Goldilocks, always looking for something neither too big nor too small, neither too hot nor too cold, something jussssst right. I'll send you a card from purgatory.

[Gidget]

Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar

I am a philosophical Goldilocks, always looking for something neither too big nor too small, neither too hot nor too cold, something jussssst right. I'll send you a card from purgatory.

Hilarious.