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fusnik11 · 04-07-2006, 08:41 PM

how long was she a polygamous wife before emma found out?

is there any documentation showing why joseph chose her?

MikeWaters · 04-07-2006, 10:05 PM

well, we can be assured it wasn't because she was a marriage counselor at BYU.

danimal · 04-08-2006, 01:39 PM

I think she was a few years before Emma knew, but I"m not sure. I do know that after a while rumors were circulating that Joseph was having an affair with her and Emma publicly defended him. I believe it was Oliver Cowdery (but not sure) that accused him of having an affair to the high council, for which he was reprimanded

SteelBlue · 04-08-2006, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by danimal

I think she was a few years before Emma knew, but I"m not sure. I do know that after a while rumors were circulating that Joseph was having an affair with her and Emma publicly defended him. I believe it was Oliver Cowdery (but not sure) that accused him of having an affair to the high council, for which he was reprimanded

You are correct. Cowdery accused Joseph of adultery with Alger to the High Council, saying Joseph had admitted it to him. Joseph did not deny the relationship but vehemently denied that it was adultery (as he had married her). Cowdery eventually admitted that while Joseph had informed him of the relationship, Joseph had never admitted to adultery. I can find no exact date or length of time that passed before Emma found out. But it seems to have been a few years.

danimal · 04-08-2006, 04:53 PM

As for why Joseph chose her, I think her parents were close friends with a trusted friend of Joseph, so he felt safe that they wouldn't spill the beans and make it public.

Robin · 04-09-2006, 09:41 AM

Questions:

How old was she when Joseph 'married' her?

Was there a legal standard of marraige at the time? Or was Joseph able to 'marry her' simly because he was the prophet, and declared it so, and then had sex with her.

Christ said that if a man THINKS about adultary, he has committed the sin in his heart.

If I imagine in graphic detail having Brooke Shields as my polygamous wife, is it no longer 'adultary in my mind?' 'Cause we would be MARRIED in my mind.

Alkili · 04-09-2006, 06:19 PM

She was 16-17 according to this site: http://wivesofjosephsmith.org/02-FannyAlger.htm

Robin · 04-10-2006, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Alkili

She was 16-17 according to this site: http://wivesofjosephsmith.org/02-FannyAlger.htm

Wow. That is an interesting web page. I wonder what kind of reputation it has for scholarly content? Reading the back story for the first few wives is like reading the MO of a sexual predator...

Joseph would invite a woman to live in his home under innocent terms, or he would be invited to live in the home of a woman (and her husband) under innocent terms. He would then turn up the charm. Appeal to his religious authority, and Marry these women/girls in secret. He would then, presumably, enjoy the privileges of marriage.

Lucky guy.

One thing I was aware of, but didnt' realize how OFTEN it happened, is the fact that the early church practice of polygamy was actually polyandry. Joseph had no problem sharing a woman with another man, so long as he had his night.

jwf · 04-10-2006, 02:33 AM

Just had his night? Give me a break.

All-American · 04-10-2006, 02:36 AM

How many threads back was the polyandry discussion?

There is no evidence that Joseph ever had sex with wives that were currently married to other husbands. The topic was discussed ad nauseum a while back.

04-07-2006, 08:41 PM	#1
fusnik11 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,506	fanny alger... how long was she a polygamous wife before emma found out? is there any documentation showing why joseph chose her?

04-09-2006, 06:19 PM	#7
Alkili Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 263	She was 16-17 according to this site: http://wivesofjosephsmith.org/02-FannyAlger.htm __________________ Dark is the Night, but I begin to see the light.

04-10-2006, 02:33 AM	#9
jwf Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 18	Your depiction of Joseph Smith is lame Just had his night? Give me a break. __________________ Kings suck this year...as do the jazz!!!

04-10-2006, 02:36 AM	#10
All-American Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,420	How many threads back was the polyandry discussion? There is no evidence that Joseph ever had sex with wives that were currently married to other husbands. The topic was discussed ad nauseum a while back. __________________ εν αρχη ην ο λογος

04-07-2006, 10:05 PM	#2
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	well, we can be assured it wasn't because she was a marriage counselor at BYU.

04-08-2006, 01:39 PM	#3
danimal Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Your mom's house Posts: 588	I think she was a few years before Emma knew, but I"m not sure. I do know that after a while rumors were circulating that Joseph was having an affair with her and Emma publicly defended him. I believe it was Oliver Cowdery (but not sure) that accused him of having an affair to the high council, for which he was reprimanded

04-08-2006, 04:53 PM	#5
danimal Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Your mom's house Posts: 588	As for why Joseph chose her, I think her parents were close friends with a trusted friend of Joseph, so he felt safe that they wouldn't spill the beans and make it public.

04-09-2006, 09:41 AM	#6
Robin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 961	Questions: How old was she when Joseph 'married' her? Was there a legal standard of marraige at the time? Or was Joseph able to 'marry her' simly because he was the prophet, and declared it so, and then had sex with her. Christ said that if a man THINKS about adultary, he has committed the sin in his heart. If I imagine in graphic detail having Brooke Shields as my polygamous wife, is it no longer 'adultary in my mind?' 'Cause we would be MARRIED in my mind.