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RC Vikings · 12-28-2007, 07:11 PM

The worst call in BYU history.

"Gary, Val Hale here, we would like you to come to Provo and interview for the job of head football coach here at the Y".

BYU71 · 12-28-2007, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

True, but I think the explanation is what killed Crowton. If he did it to avoid punting, that is one thing. But he said he passed to win by 9, not by 2. That is just stupid.

I thought the vote was on the decision, not the explanation. As far as explanation goes, I am far more impressed with how Bronco and Anae are handling it.

jay santos · 12-28-2007, 07:29 PM

Crowton's was a bad call. But made worse by a dumb QB decision of throwing against your body on a roll out into traffic. So it's kinda 50/50 on Crowton and Beck on that.

Anae's was a bad call. But a lot of coaches run the ball in that situation. Anae was guilty of blindly following what he's seen before. A coach will run the ball from the 20 with 30 seconds on the clock because you have a 1/10 chance to break it for 20 yards which sets you up to run another play for a shot at a field goal or a hail mary. Also, a fumble on the 20 usually means giving up a field goal not 7 points. But we were on the 5 and giving the ball to a big bruiser not a speed back that busts long runs. Very bad idea.

I always hate punting inside the 40.

Pretty close to a tie for all three.

MikeWaters · 12-28-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

Crowton's was a bad call. But made worse by a dumb QB decision of throwing against your body on a roll out into traffic. So it's kinda 50/50 on Crowton and Beck on that.

Anae's was a bad call. But a lot of coaches run the ball in that situation. Anae was guilty of blindly following what he's seen before. A coach will run the ball from the 20 with 30 seconds on the clock because you have a 1/10 chance to break it for 20 yards which sets you up to run another play for a shot at a field goal or a hail mary. Also, a fumble on the 20 usually means giving up a field goal not 7 points. But we were on the 5 and giving the ball to a big bruiser not a speed back that busts long runs. Very bad idea.

I always hate punting inside the 40.

Pretty close to a tie for all three.

A coach who has seen his star RB get thrown on his face 10 times in the first half, 5 yards back in the backfield, would not run the ball from his own 10 with 30 seconds left.

The OL was owned, and apparently Anae was the only person to not notice.

K-dog · 12-28-2007, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

Oddly enough, Bronco again punted on 4th and 2 from inside the 35 against UCLA in the bowl game. It was yet another really, really bad call.

Bronco is a bit too conservative some times.

YOhio · 12-28-2007, 07:53 PM

Pulling Bret Engemann at halftime of the Nevada game after he threw a pick 6 on a Hail Mary play, ruining Bret's confidence and team chemistry. Equally bad was not flying in to Reno until gameday.

smokymountainrain · 12-28-2007, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

Oddly enough, Bronco again punted on 4th and 2 from inside the 35 against UCLA in the bowl game. It was yet another really, really bad call.

twice in the UCLA game. in the 4th quarter both times.

BYU71 · 12-28-2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

Crowton's was a bad call. But made worse by a dumb QB decision of throwing against your body on a roll out into traffic. So it's kinda 50/50 on Crowton and Beck on that.

Anae's was a bad call. But a lot of coaches run the ball in that situation. Anae was guilty of blindly following what he's seen before. A coach will run the ball from the 20 with 30 seconds on the clock because you have a 1/10 chance to break it for 20 yards which sets you up to run another play for a shot at a field goal or a hail mary. Also, a fumble on the 20 usually means giving up a field goal not 7 points. But we were on the 5 and giving the ball to a big bruiser not a speed back that busts long runs. Very bad idea.

I always hate punting inside the 40.

Pretty close to a tie for all three.

First half way decent explanation for a possible upside to running it. Unga breaks it 25 yards and we would then have about 12 seconds to get in field goal range. Half way decent is giving you the benefit of the doubt I know.

MikeWaters · 12-28-2007, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

First half way decent explanation for a possible upside to running it. Unga breaks it 25 yards and we would then have about 12 seconds to get in field goal range. Half way decent is giving you the benefit of the doubt I know.

Meaning that we would now be at our own 35.

I give the odds of Unga breaking a 25 yarder in that situation as about 1 in 250. The odds of him fumbling are low, but higher than the odds of him running that far, based on the production to that point in the game.

jay santos · 12-28-2007, 08:21 PM

Worst game coaching in history of BYU was vs UNLV at home 2004.

Going into the game UNLV has good pass defense but awful run defense.

John Beck 34/68, 358 yds, 1 INT, 1 TD, pass rating = 96.1 and throw in 8 carries for -22 yards
Curtis Brown 8 carries, 102 yards

BYU loses to a bad UNLV team at home 24-20...two long field goals, a defensive TD, and one offensive TD

View Poll Results: What is the worst game-time decision
Crowton's attempt to "win by 9 instead of by 2", late in the game, resulting in an INT by Beck	15	41.67%
Bronco punting on the 35-yd-line on fourth and 2 late in the game vs. BC.	2	5.56%
Anae handing off to Unga at the end of the first half vs. UCLA	17	47.22%
Other (please describe)	2	5.56%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

12-28-2007, 07:11 PM	#21
RC Vikings Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Rexburg, Idaho Posts: 2,236	The worst call in BYU history. "Gary, Val Hale here, we would like you to come to Provo and interview for the job of head football coach here at the Y".

12-28-2007, 07:29 PM	#23
jay santos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,177	Crowton's was a bad call. But made worse by a dumb QB decision of throwing against your body on a roll out into traffic. So it's kinda 50/50 on Crowton and Beck on that. Anae's was a bad call. But a lot of coaches run the ball in that situation. Anae was guilty of blindly following what he's seen before. A coach will run the ball from the 20 with 30 seconds on the clock because you have a 1/10 chance to break it for 20 yards which sets you up to run another play for a shot at a field goal or a hail mary. Also, a fumble on the 20 usually means giving up a field goal not 7 points. But we were on the 5 and giving the ball to a big bruiser not a speed back that busts long runs. Very bad idea. I always hate punting inside the 40. Pretty close to a tie for all three.

12-28-2007, 07:53 PM	#26
YOhio AKA SeattleNewt Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,055	Pulling Bret Engemann at halftime of the Nevada game after he threw a pick 6 on a Hail Mary play, ruining Bret's confidence and team chemistry. Equally bad was not flying in to Reno until gameday.

12-28-2007, 08:21 PM	#30
jay santos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,177	Worst game coaching in history of BYU was vs UNLV at home 2004. Going into the game UNLV has good pass defense but awful run defense. John Beck 34/68, 358 yds, 1 INT, 1 TD, pass rating = 96.1 and throw in 8 carries for -22 yards Curtis Brown 8 carries, 102 yards BYU loses to a bad UNLV team at home 24-20...two long field goals, a defensive TD, and one offensive TD