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BYU71 · 12-07-2007, 04:49 PM

criticism here. You all pretty much know I am a CC Legacy member.

Mentioning that or where I sit seems to set some people off. Saying that seems to indicate I am announcing I am better than they are or rich or some other kind of bullshit, my opinion.

What I am trying to express is perhaps the feeling of people who are Legacy members. While they are not better people, let's face facts, those who contribute have more influence in our society. They aren't better people, but they do have more influence. It also doesn't mean they are rich, it could have been my very last $10,000 to my name and the kids aren't going to get anything.

I was trying to give a perspective that I know 3 Legacy members who aren't buying tickets this year and their reasons why. I happen to buy my allotment as a request from CB members. I am out now $1850, I hope I get the money.

Is their no value in expressing how some Legacy members feel and it is always just seen as a chance to express one is better and richer than others.

jay santos · 12-07-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

criticism here. You all pretty much know I am a CC Legacy member.

Mentioning that or where I sit seems to set some people off. Saying that seems to indicate I am announcing I am better than they are or rich or some other kind of bullshit, my opinion.

What I am trying to express is perhaps the feeling of people who are Legacy members. While they are not better people, let's face facts, those who contribute have more influence in our society. They aren't better people, but they do have more influence. It also doesn't mean they are rich, it could have been my very last $10,000 to my name and the kids aren't going to get anything.

I was trying to give a perspective that I know 3 Legacy members who aren't buying tickets this year and their reasons why. I happen to buy my allotment as a request from CB members. I am out now $1850, I hope I get the money.

Is their no value in expressing how some Legacy members feel and it is always just seen as a chance to express one is better and richer than others.

I doubt if the average fan views the world and BYU sports much differently than a Legacy member. i.e. if 20% of Legacy members are bummed about UCLA in a bowl and 50% want a tougher schedule next year, and 2% are pissed enough to stop buying season tickets, probably 20%, 50%, and 2% of poor, cheap BYU fans feel the same way.

So, the answer is yes there is no value in expressing that you're a Legacy CC member when you give your opinion on such matters.

Calls to authority usually don't work well on internet message boards.

Insensitive PAP · 12-07-2007, 05:31 PM

Maybe Waters could open a Holy of Holies wing in Cougarguard just for you.

BYU71 · 12-07-2007, 05:41 PM

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Maybe Waters could open a Holy of Holies wing in Cougarguard just for you.

And to think I had just moved you off of my dumb ass list. Now I have to move you back on. It isn't as bad as being ignored though.

myboynoah · 12-07-2007, 05:45 PM

Harsh crowd.

It doesn't bother me, but I'm influenced by your avatar.

TripletDaddy · 12-07-2007, 05:50 PM

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And to think I had just moved you off of my dumb ass list. Now I have to move you back on. It isn't as bad as being ignored though.

71, if it makes you feel any better, I have you on my "Legacy Ignore" list, as opposed to my rank and file "Ignore" list.

cougjunkie · 12-07-2007, 05:57 PM

I am of the opinion that the more you donate, the more right you have to bitch and moan. If you are not donating or attending games you have no right to bitch about what is going on.

So bitch away.

BYU71 · 12-07-2007, 06:01 PM

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I am of the opinion that the more you donate, the more right you have to bitch and moan. If you are not donating or attending games you have no right to bitch about what is going on.

So bitch away.

For the record, I am leaning toward this being the proper attitude.

BYU71 · 12-07-2007, 06:02 PM

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71, if it makes you feel any better, I have you on my "Legacy Ignore" list, as opposed to my rank and file "Ignore" list.

That's worth the $10,000.

cougjunkie · 12-07-2007, 06:03 PM

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For the record, I am leaning toward this being the proper attitude.

The real questions is, do you have the right to bitch as much as John Haddow?

12-07-2007, 04:49 PM	#1
BYU71 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,084	Ok, I am open to some constructive criticism here. You all pretty much know I am a CC Legacy member. Mentioning that or where I sit seems to set some people off. Saying that seems to indicate I am announcing I am better than they are or rich or some other kind of bullshit, my opinion. What I am trying to express is perhaps the feeling of people who are Legacy members. While they are not better people, let's face facts, those who contribute have more influence in our society. They aren't better people, but they do have more influence. It also doesn't mean they are rich, it could have been my very last $10,000 to my name and the kids aren't going to get anything. I was trying to give a perspective that I know 3 Legacy members who aren't buying tickets this year and their reasons why. I happen to buy my allotment as a request from CB members. I am out now $1850, I hope I get the money. Is their no value in expressing how some Legacy members feel and it is always just seen as a chance to express one is better and richer than others.

12-07-2007, 05:45 PM	#5
myboynoah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Memphis freakin' Tennessee!!!!! Posts: 4,530	Harsh crowd. It doesn't bother me, but I'm influenced by your avatar. __________________ Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!! Religion rises inevitably from our apprehension of our own death. To give meaning to meaninglessness is the endless quest of all religion. When death becomes the center of our consciousness, then religion authentically begins. Of all religions that I know, the one that most vehemently and persuasively defies and denies the reality of death is the original Mormonism of the Prophet, Seer and Revelator, Joseph Smith.

12-07-2007, 05:57 PM	#7
cougjunkie Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 5,741	I am of the opinion that the more you donate, the more right you have to bitch and moan. If you are not donating or attending games you have no right to bitch about what is going on. So bitch away. __________________ LINCECUM!

12-07-2007, 05:31 PM	#3
Insensitive PAP Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 293	Maybe Waters could open a Holy of Holies wing in Cougarguard just for you.