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Old 01-12-2007, 03:30 AM   #31
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Agreed.

Meaningful diagolue would go much further than posting marginally relevant quotes without proper context or referencing.
Meaningful dialogue? What does that have to do with discussing religion?
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Old 01-12-2007, 03:34 AM   #32
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Meaningful dialogue? What does that have to do with discussing religion?
Good point.

In that case, at least spit out some serious venom against the church instead of this weak sauce CES stuff.
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Old 01-12-2007, 07:02 AM   #33
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Hey Aaron,

When are you going to stop the cutting and pasting and actually use some of your own thoughts/words? I am genuinely curious.

Thanks in advance.
I agree also. This here and there isn't very productive.

C'mon Aaron, share with us what you believe and why you believe it. You've obviously made great sacrifices to be where you are and spend a lot of time in your missionary efforts.

But I don't want any of this "Joe Smith married women who were already married" or "Joe Smith was a money digger" or "Brigham Young was a racist." If you review the religion threads you'll see we've discussed this all ad nauseum.

I may be mistaken, but I think you're the first real "Evangelical" to grace us with his/her presence, so I'm curious about your view of The Gospel as taught by The Savior. What do you believe constitutes Christianity and why do you believe that?

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Old 01-12-2007, 12:09 PM   #34
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Interesting quite from Packer. I also thought it was interesting that Bushman sought a blessing from Elder Packer prior to writing RSR.

Bushman records, “I sought a blessing from Elder Packer before getting started, and insofar as I was worthy, I think the blessing was fufilled.”
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Old 01-12-2007, 05:12 PM   #35
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I may be mistaken, but I think you're the first real "Evangelical" to grace us with his/her presence, so I'm curious about your view of The Gospel as taught by The Savior. What do you believe constitutes Christianity and why do you believe that?
I'd be glad to write a thoughtful reply to this. But I'll probably have to post it tonight.

Until then, stare at this ;-)

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Old 01-12-2007, 06:29 PM   #36
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I'd be glad to write a thoughtful reply to this. But I'll probably have to post it tonight...

Take care,

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Aaron, I hope you'll include your thoughts on the interpretation of Scripture.

Also, if you'll kindly let us know which college teams you support, that would be helpful.

Thank you.
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Old 01-12-2007, 07:17 PM   #37
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I'd be glad to write a thoughtful reply to this. But I'll probably have to post it tonight.

Until then, stare at this ;-)

http://beta.lds.org/images/Manuals/t...nfo:o:3319.jpg

Take care,

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Aaron, go read SleepingInEQ's post on historical inoculation. I think you'll find that there's nobody who posts here regularly who hasn't received that inoculation. I doubt theres anything you could bring to the table that we haven't already discussed amongst each other. Your attempts at shock and awe are going to be rather fruitless around here.
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Old 01-12-2007, 07:20 PM   #38
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I'd be glad to write a thoughtful reply to this. But I'll probably have to post it tonight.

Until then, stare at this ;-)

http://beta.lds.org/images/Manuals/t...nfo:o:3319.jpg

Take care,

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Also, if you'll kindly let us know which college teams you support, that would be helpful.

Thank you.
You don't even need to ask. He's a Ute fan all the way.
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Since I live in Utah Valley and have been mesmorized by the Y on the mountain,
I cannot help but cheer for BYU. But I do have specialized apparel for the games:

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