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MikeWaters · 10-26-2007, 08:28 PM

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Also, what is the relevance?

A bigger site is more expensive to maintain. Ask Utefans, they went through all kinds of grief.

Bigger not necessarily better.

TripletDaddy · 10-26-2007, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

A bigger site is more expensive to maintain. Ask Utefans, they went through all kinds of grief.

Bigger not necessarily better.

Ah, fair. Technically, I am advocating for bigger.

Then why not charge a nominal fee? If you feel Jefe is getting fat off the land, then why not charge $5 instead? Would that cover your costs and time fairly?

It seems that you have to address this issue sooner or later. If your vision for this site is to stay the exact same and never grow, then you wont need to, but if you expect new visitors and come and camp out, then eventually, wont you need to deal with the hassles of increased traffic?

MikeWaters · 10-26-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

It seems that you have to address this issue sooner or later. If your vision for this site is to stay the exact same and never grow, then you wont need to, but if you expect new visitors and come and camp out, then eventually, wont you need to deal with the hassles of increased traffic?

Yes, it will have to be dealt with sooner or later. One of the most common devices used to raise funds is to offer perks to people who pay for them. For example, using an avatar, or even using private messaging. So far the sentiment on this site, from the actual donors, has been no perks for donors.

Does this tend to hurt the bottom line? Yes. But the bottom line is not (yet) very big, so it's not a big deal at all.

Advertising is another option. I have a friend who tells me the ad revenue could be "significant" but I really have no idea how much it would be.

If we have to upgrade our server status, the most likely path will be integrated ads on the site.

TripletDaddy · 10-26-2007, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Yes, it will have to be dealt with sooner or later. One of the most common devices used to raise funds is to offer perks to people who pay for them. For example, using an avatar, or even using private messaging. So far the sentiment on this site, from the actual donors, has been no perks for donors.

Does this tend to hurt the bottom line? Yes. But the bottom line is not (yet) very big, so it's not a big deal at all.

Advertising is another option. I have a friend who tells me the ad revenue could be "significant" but I really have no idea how much it would be.

If we have to upgrade our server status, the most likely path will be integrated ads on the site.

I guess the fundamental question for you is, do you want the site to grow? and under what criteria?

MikeWaters · 10-26-2007, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

I guess the fundamental question for you is, do you want the site to grow? and under what criteria?

I'm content with word of mouth, and not pushing hard for growth. In other words, I want quality over quantity.

TripletDaddy · 10-26-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I'm content with word of mouth, and not pushing hard for growth. In other words, I want quality over quantity.

So does that mean you dont want me to put together an I-15 billboard campaign?

MikeWaters · 10-26-2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

So does that mean you dont want me to put together an I-15 billboard campaign?

Frankly, I have put very little effort into upgrading the technical aspects of this site. But I told myself if I were every booted from CB, I would work harder to improve CG.

VBulletin is an interesting platform with a lot of flexibility. We should have a mobile version of the site out shortly.

Black Diamond Bay · 10-26-2007, 09:13 PM

My thoughts on CG...

It took me a quite a while to gain a real appreciation for the Guard. Had I not been blocked from the board and forced to spend my days on here, there is no doubt in my mind that I would still have no interest in visiting this site. I would venture to say this was in part due to the fact that I already had it labeled as the "apostate board" in my head.

Have there been any updates on that Requiem story?

DDD if you want to know what I'm listening to right now my ipod is currently playing Somebody's Crying by Chris Isaak.

I don't want CG to get bigger, I'm not sure there's a need for two boards.

Like the Board still and I like the Guard, they appeal to me in two entirely different ways. I like that CB attracts a lot of people and therefore there's always somebody posting something that's sort of interesting.

I like CG because people over here can generally let me argue with them and can usually hold up their end of the disagreement. It's maybe not the best habit I have, but sometimes arguing is kind of a refreshing little mental exercise, and it forces me to sort things out in my own head so that I can formulate a logical defense for my position. FYI, I learned early on not to try this with roommates. They usually get upset, resort to personal attacks, and then go sulking around the house until they get a grovelling apology.

Black Diamond Bay · 10-26-2007, 09:14 PM

Oh, one more thing. Is there a way to donate to the Guard without using paypal? My paypal account got hacked, so they shut it down.

MikeWaters · 10-26-2007, 09:16 PM

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Oh, one more thing. Is there a way to donate to the Guard without using paypal? My paypal account got hacked, so they shut it down.

I've accepted personal checks in the past. I've not accepted livestock or farm products, mainly because of the hassle.

10-26-2007, 09:13 PM	#38
Black Diamond Bay Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,000	My thoughts on CG... It took me a quite a while to gain a real appreciation for the Guard. Had I not been blocked from the board and forced to spend my days on here, there is no doubt in my mind that I would still have no interest in visiting this site. I would venture to say this was in part due to the fact that I already had it labeled as the "apostate board" in my head. Have there been any updates on that Requiem story? DDD if you want to know what I'm listening to right now my ipod is currently playing Somebody's Crying by Chris Isaak. I don't want CG to get bigger, I'm not sure there's a need for two boards. Like the Board still and I like the Guard, they appeal to me in two entirely different ways. I like that CB attracts a lot of people and therefore there's always somebody posting something that's sort of interesting. I like CG because people over here can generally let me argue with them and can usually hold up their end of the disagreement. It's maybe not the best habit I have, but sometimes arguing is kind of a refreshing little mental exercise, and it forces me to sort things out in my own head so that I can formulate a logical defense for my position. FYI, I learned early on not to try this with roommates. They usually get upset, resort to personal attacks, and then go sulking around the house until they get a grovelling apology.

10-26-2007, 09:14 PM	#39
Black Diamond Bay Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,000	Oh, one more thing. Is there a way to donate to the Guard without using paypal? My paypal account got hacked, so they shut it down.