CG question I least understand

[UtahDan]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I can't believe how often I come across the question here of "Seriously, why do you even go to church? Why are you even Mormon?"

That strikes me as being totally unhelpful.

It assumes that the person to whom the quote is directed IS currently going to church, then it suggests that that person really should reevaluate why they go to church (which presumably would, in the author's opinion, lead to a decision on the part of the person to whom the quote is directed that attending church really shouldn't be an activity they engage in).

Why would any LDS person make that part of an argument? Isn't it GOOD that someone attends church, even if you think they are a bad person? Isn't it better they attend than not attend?

I think all too often LDS people are more focused on eliminating people they think are bad from the church instead of focusing on bringing more people into the church. Doesn't make any sense to me.

I think I've given my opinion on this particular question before, but I think that it is a lot like saying "how can you be a Democrat and be Mormon?" Its not really a question is it? Its a statement that insinuates that you can't or shouldn't.

As I've said, its not a useful thing to ask in this context.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

What can be confusing is when the language, tone and rhetoric used by people who claim to still be true believers is virtually indistinguishable from those self-professed non-believers or former belivers on this site.

What is a "true believer" as opposed to a believer.

Could you like give me a 10 criteria summary. I am pretty sure I am not a "true" anything, but still am curious.

[UtahDan]

Originally Posted by BYU71

What is a "true believer" as opposed to a believer.

Could you like give me a 10 criteria summary. I am pretty sure I am not a "true" anything, but still am curious.

Disagree. You are a true picker outer of avatars in my book.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by UtahDan

Disagree. You are a true picker outer of avatars in my book.

Ah, the great fascade. What we think we know, we don't really. ute4ever picked out my first one and someone else gave me the current one.

Maybe I am a "true" reciever of gifts.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by BYU71

What is a "true believer" as opposed to a believer.

Could you like give me a 10 criteria summary. I am pretty sure I am not a "true" anything, but still am curious.

I'm not describing what a "true believer" is; I'm referring to how posters choose to identify themselves. Some claim they have a fervent testimony. Some claim they used to believe but don't anymore. Some claim they never believed.

I haven't attempted in my post to categorize anyone.

[Cali Coug]

I am not trying to turn this into a thread of personal attacks.

I just don't understand the mentality of an LDS member that it may be desireable to push another LDS member out the door.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I am not trying to turn this into a thread of personal attacks.

I just don't understand the mentality of an LDS member that it may be desireable to push another LDS member out the door.

Do you know anyone on this board who has advocated that?

[smokymountainrain]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I am not trying to turn this into a thread of personal attacks.

While that may not have been your intent, pat yourself on the back my friend; threads full of personal attacks > threads that lack personal attacks in nearly every instance.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by Tex

Do you know anyone on this board who has advocated that?

Like I said, I find comments such as "Why are you even a member" to mean exactly that.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

I'm not describing what a "true believer" is; I'm referring to how posters choose to identify themselves. Some claim they have a fervent testimony. Some claim they used to believe but don't anymore. Some claim they never believed.

I haven't attempted in my post to categorize anyone.

So you are not labeling anyone as a "claim to be a true believer", but if such a person existed they could be compared to the people you are not labeling as "claim to be non-believers". Statistically I guess that makes sense.