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Old 08-27-2008, 09:18 PM   #11
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complaining about taxes w/o evidence again, go figure.
What evidence do you wish to read about the impact of capital gains upon capital investment?

And just citing to a liberal authority without divulging his analysis is no better than me offering my opinion.

I'm fairly comfortable Pelagius has his pulse on much of the Chicago school analysis on this topic.

Yes I'm aware of Buffett's self-serving liberal opinion. Let's be honest if you wish to discuss matters. Everybody has an agenda and a cross to bear and nobody once he's in the political arena is without political agenda.

Even the academic types come from a specific school of thought and seek to promote that thought process. You don't really wish to discuss it just to call upon authority.
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Old 08-27-2008, 09:37 PM   #12
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Archaea once said that he doesn't want to discuss taxes with neophytes.

I challenged his tax quals beyond simple estate planning and he was fairly silent.

At this point, discussing taxes with Archaea is like talking abstinence with UteStar.
Troll bait.

Is this because I dispute the usefulness of AMT?
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Troll bait.

Is this because I dispute the usefulness of AMT?
It would only be troll bait if I were really interested in your response.

At this point, I am not.

Your incessant carping about "taxes" is putting you into ExUte territory, at least on this specific issue.

Why not spend some time addressing this insane budget deficit and then explain how we reduce it.
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Why not spend some time addressing this insane budget deficit and then explain how we reduce it.
And please don't say "spend less," since neither party proposes doing so.
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:07 PM   #15
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It would only be troll bait if I were really interested in your response.

At this point, I am not.

Your incessant carping about "taxes" is putting you into ExUte territory, at least on this specific issue.

Why not spend some time addressing this insane budget deficit and then explain how we reduce it.
There was research in the past which suggested deficits were actually good. Are you familiar with such research?

We haven't even agreed on basic assumptions because on a larger level we're not completely certain of impact.

Structural versus operating deficits, stability of currency, bond markets, and etc, I defer to Pelagius as most of economics is admittedly out of date, in that I no longer read the journals as I once did for fun.

But the number one area I would focus upon would be spending reduction, civil servant reductions, and discretionary spending. Won't happen in today's climate.
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:11 PM   #16
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There was research in the past which suggested deficits were actually good. Are you familiar with such research?

Keynes thought so under some circumstances. IS this what you mean?
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There was research in the past which suggested deficits were actually good. Are you familiar with such research?
No.

I am familiar with roads, schools, student loans, and just about everything else I use on a daily basis as a result of taxes.

Are you familiar with these everyday items?
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No.

I am familiar with roads, schools, student loans, and just about everything else I use on a daily basis as a result of taxes.

Are you familiar with these everyday items?
What is causing our deficits? Is it caused by infrastructure investment and maintenance? I think not for the most part. There may be a boondoggle or two, but usually not.

Is everything financed intelligently? Probably not.

This is the charade played by politicians, they hold out something people don't wish to do without, and say disingenuously "these favored items are threatened unless you raise revenues."

BS.
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What is causing our deficits? Is it caused by infrastructure investment and maintenance? I think not for the most part. There may be a boondoggle or two, but usually not.

Is everything financed intelligently? Probably not.

This is the charade played by politicians, they hold out something people don't wish to do without, and say disingenuously "these favored items are threatened unless you raise revenues."

BS.
If you want spending reduction, then you must also want a swift end to the war in Iraq.
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And please don't say "spend less," since neither party proposes doing so.
I thought the era of big government ended in '96.
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