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BarbaraGordon · 08-28-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ERCougar

I don't understand how the other half live. Somehow this conclusion is drawn from my frustration that many of the poor are neglecting certain basics for cigarettes. I would call that presumptuous, yeah.

I never said that you don't understand how the other half live. You assumed that I was referring to you when in fact I was referring to a thread some time ago in which the gentlemen were debating whether it is possible to "make ends meet" on a mere 300k per year.

If you work with the poor, I'm proud of you. If that's the only capacity in which poverty affects your family, I'm happy for you. But don't presume that my knowledge of the working poor comes from policy papers written by academics in ivory towers.

ERCougar · 08-28-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

I never said that you don't understand how the other half live. You assumed that I was referring to you when in fact I was referring to a thread some time ago in which the gentlemen were debating whether it is possible to "make ends meet" on a mere 300k per year.

If you work with the poor, I'm proud of you. If that's the only capacity in which poverty affects your family, I'm happy for you. But don't presume that my knowledge of the working poor comes from policy papers written by academics in ivory towers.

You're right--I'm sorry to presume, as well.

Please don't misinterpret my statement as a lack of compassion. You couldn't pay me to trade life situations (well, I guess you could, but then that would sort of defeat the purpose). I'm grateful poverty doesn't affect me personally and I do all in my power to help others out of it. But it's extremely frustrating to watch self-defeating behaviors in the midst of your attempts to assist. And it's more frustrating to hear others then accuse you of not understanding. Maybe I'm a little over-sensitive.

Tex · 08-28-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

You are out of your league, exie. This conversation isn't about who has the most money. It is about the simple fact that a well-known and influential conservative blog has just posited that conversations in American homes about the challenge of paying heating bills or the need to have a mother move in with them ARE IMAGINARY. They don't exist. Nobody could possibly be that badly off.

But if they are, Joe Biden will be there to help them out. Government is the answer.

BYU71 · 08-28-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

You are out of your league, exie. This conversation isn't about who has the most money. It is about the simple fact that a well-known and influential conservative blog has just posited that conversations in American homes about the challenge of paying heating bills or the need to have a mother move in with them ARE IMAGINARY. They don't exist. Nobody could possibly be that badly off.

Astonishing. That you don't get it, however, is anything but.

They aren't as common place as the dems would like you to believe. If it was so commonplace they wouldn't have to bring out these stories about the people they have met on the trail.

Do you honestly think during the Clinton years I couldn't bump into people that are having hard times.

Bush/McCain or Carter/Obama. There is no contest. Go back and look at interest rates, unemployment, our standing in the world, the stock market and energy prices and long gas lines.

If you want to redistribute the wealth and move to a socialistic system like the Europeans, fine. At least have the balls to say that is where you want to go and why. It isn't about the economy. We aren't in any worse times than we have seen over the last 50 years when we have a downturn in an economic cycle.

Tex · 08-28-2008, 04:02 PM

New McCain ad on Obama's unreadiness intersperses Democrat quotes with recent world crises, and then closes with this Obama quote:

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You know, I am a believer in … in knowing what you’re doing when you apply for a job. Uh, and I think that … if I were seriously to consider running on a national ticket, I would essentially have to start now, before having served a day in the Senate. Now there may be some people who are comfortable doing that, but I am not one of those people. — Barack Obama, 2004

Ouch (sorry, no YouTube link).

BarbaraGordon · 08-28-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

New McCain ad on Obama's unreadiness intersperses Democrat quotes with recent world crises, and then closes with this Obama quote:

(sorry, no YouTube link).

Tex, I'm afraid to even ask, but what is up with your avatar?

Tex · 08-28-2008, 06:44 PM

Intrade's reaction to the Dem Convention:

Tex · 08-28-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

Tex, I'm afraid to even ask, but what is up with your avatar?

FYI, you have exceeded the limit on your PMs.

Tex · 08-28-2008, 07:30 PM

Via Powerline:

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About Barack Obama's Greek Temple, from the New York Post:

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As if a Rocky Mountain coronation were not lofty enough, Barack Obama will aim for Mount Olympus when he accepts his party's nomination atop an enormous, Greek-columned stage - built by the same cheesy set team that put together Britney Spears' last tour. ...

But the set is designed to evoke the White House and the Lincoln Memorial, not the Acropolis, said staging supervisor Bobby Allen, a Spears set vet.

"We've done Britney's sets and a whole bunch of rock shows, but this was far more elaborate and complicated and we had to do it in far less time," said Allen, of RDA Entertainment.

Asked who is harder to satisfy - the Democrats or Britney - Allen replied: "I better not answer that."

You can't make this stuff up.

LOL.

BarbaraGordon · 08-28-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex

FYI, you have exceeded the limit on your PMs.

I don't even have a prime minister.

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