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Old 12-08-2016, 08:10 PM   #21
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Option football? No, thank you. It's not a given that playing that way would lead to winning at BYU. The game has changed. It hasn't worked for a very long time at any school other than Navy or Air Force. Hasn't even worked at Army. Former Navy coaches have tried it at other schools with little success. Better for him to stay where he's at and take the pay raise. Better for BYU to go a different direction.
I tried asking him if BYU would let him run the triple option if he got hired. He said things never got that far.
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"Will you accept a 50% pay cut?"
"No."
"For the Lord?"
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Old 12-09-2016, 07:37 PM   #23
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"Will you accept a 50% pay cut?"
"No."
"For the Lord?"
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If you want people who did not grow up in Utah to stay active, make certain they don't work for the Church. The Church's attitude toward employment can be dispiriting. Ken obviously valued his great position at Navy more than a huge pay cut and limited facilities and recruiting options.
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I'm not sure why you all think he stayed because of money.

He made $2.7M at Navy. Even BYU would easily match that.
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I'm not sure why you all think he stayed because of money.

He made $2.7M at Navy. Even BYU would easily match that.
Here is the published figures. Coach K makes only $2 million at Navy. I don't know what BYU pays its coach because it's concealed. I don't know why BYU fans and Mormons stand for that authoritarianism. They should disclose wtf they pay the coach. Why are BYU fans so infantile as to tolerate this?

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/
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Here is the published figures. Coach K makes only $2 million at Navy. I don't know what BYU pays its coach because it's concealed. I don't know why BYU fans and Mormons stand for that authoritarianism. They should disclose wtf they pay the coach. Why are BYU fans so infantile as to tolerate this?

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/
There is enough outrage over the high*EST paid public employee in most states being the football coach (or basketball in states like Kentucky and Kansas).

Imagine when people learn the highest paid church employee is the football coach.
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I don't know...I think a lot or most Mormons would be more comfortable with a coach making 1.5 million per year compared to the President of the church collecting a cool 1.5 million per year.
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Not this again.
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I don't know...I think a lot or most Mormons would be more comfortable with a coach making 1.5 million per year compared to the President of the church collecting a cool 1.5 million per year.
We are accustomed to seeing both. However, we expect the president of the Church to work for less.

I'd be cool with a coach making $3 Million if he were bringing us into the big time.
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We are accustomed to seeing both. However, we expect the president of the Church to work for less.

I'd be cool with a coach making $3 Million if he were bringing us into the big time.
Non-sports fans, which comprise the vast majority of the public are horrified at this thought.

We can argue money, but I think Coach N was a bad football fit for BYU and both sides realized it. No argument about him being a good fit culturally. It wasn't money. It was just like when Lavell figured it out in time to turn down the Detroit Lions. I hardly think he would have done better than Sitake has, and he would have been like a fish out of water running something other than the option. Triple option coaches are a unique breed. Can you think of a single example of one of those over the last 30 years who even tried to run something else after they became entrenched in it, or of a triple option coach who was successful running it outside of the service academies since the 1980s?
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