Just watched the game

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

last 3 quarters that I recorded.

Utah vs. Alabama.

I'm really proud of how Utah represented the MWC.

I'm glad that the BCS is further exposed as a farce. I'm glad that Utah pierced the media lies of BCS superiority.

As a (marginal) BYU fan, I have to say, there is a tall mountain to climb here, getting back to the top of the MWC.

Kyle Whittingham > Bronco Mendenhall. And right now, it's not even close.

Did you get to see the 1st quarter? That was the most flawless football that Utah has played all year.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

last 3 quarters that I recorded.

Utah vs. Alabama.

I'm really proud of how Utah represented the MWC.

I'm glad that the BCS is further exposed as a farce. I'm glad that Utah pierced the media lies of BCS superiority.

As a (marginal) BYU fan, I have to say, there is a tall mountain to climb here, getting back to the top of the MWC.

Kyle Whittingham > Bronco Mendenhall. And right now, it's not even close.

Waters, here, watch the first quarter. It's not to be missed. Shock and awe.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/50859/alls...tah-vs-alabama

[MikeWaters]

No I didn't see the first quarter.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Waters, here, watch the first quarter. It's not to be missed. Shock and awe.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/50859/alls...tah-vs-alabama

The first 12 minutes of that game are an example of how to play football on both sides of the ball.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

What is the "Church connection" with Brian Johnson, Matt Asiata, David Reed, Sean Smith, Richard Johnson, Fred Brown, Brent Casteel, and Louie Sakoda?

Okay Tex, where did I imply Utah's recruiting is exclusive to Church? Did you fail to pick up on those missed on by the bigger schools?

We'll just call you TexUte for now on.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

No I didn't see the first quarter.

That Q was Football 101.

[Ma'ake]

The genius of Whitt's recruiting vis-a-vis BYU is that he can offer:

1. A good LDS experience - largest LDS Institute & student body outside BYU among D1A football schools - sans the secret police and (perceived) intra-LDS cultural superiority / arrogance.

2. He can recruit non-LDS athletes. In fact, I would argue there is such a critical mass of AA kids that they sell the program themselves, we actually get AA walkons.

3. The mix is impressive. Every gets along pretty well. You have Polynesian RMs working side-by-side with non-LDS "hellion" Polys, lots of black kids working with RMs without a second thought. (I like the Poly "manes", personally)

4. non-LDS players don't really care that KW and other coaches are LDS. For that matter, WHO CARES if Whitt is not 100% attendance LDS. (I don't know, it doesn't atter.)

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Ma'ake

The genius of Whitt's recruiting vis-a-vis BYU is that he can offer:

1. A good LDS experience - largest LDS Institute & student body outside BYU among D1A football schools - sans the secret police and (perceived) intra-LDS cultural superiority / arrogance.

2. He can recruit non-LDS athletes. In fact, I would argue there is such a critical mass of AA kids that they sell the program themselves, we actually get AA walkons.

3. The mix is impressive. Every gets along pretty well. You have Polynesian RMs working side-by-side with non-LDS "hellion" Polys, lots of black kids working with RMs without a second thought. (I like the Poly "manes", personally)

4. non-LDS players don't really care that KW and other coaches are LDS. For that matter, WHO CARES if Whitt is not 100% attendance LDS. (I don't know, it doesn't atter.)

BYU's glass ceiling is due to its parochialism, inclucing its racist past with which it refuses to come to terms, and the Honor Code to name a couple of examples. But LDS culture does have undeniable virtues and positive values. Clearly those translate into success on the football field, among other endeavors.

Whit, himself a product of LDS culture, taps into those including in his recruiting. But he is not constrained by the parochialism. So he has the best of both words. Also, he's now positioned the porgram so that he goes toe to toe with Colorado, Washington, and the likes for recruits. He's in a real sweet spot.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Okay Tex, where did I imply Utah's recruiting is exclusive to Church? Did you fail to pick up on those missed on by the bigger schools?

We'll just call you TexUte for now on.

That was SeattleUte, not me. I asked a different question.

[exUte]

Originally Posted by Ma'ake

The genius of Whitt's recruiting vis-a-vis BYU is that he can offer:

1. A good LDS experience - largest LDS Institute & student body outside BYU among D1A football schools - sans the secret police and (perceived) intra-LDS cultural superiority / arrogance.

2. He can recruit non-LDS athletes. In fact, I would argue there is such a critical mass of AA kids that they sell the program themselves, we actually get AA walkons.

3. The mix is impressive. Every gets along pretty well. You have Polynesian RMs working side-by-side with non-LDS "hellion" Polys, lots of black kids working with RMs without a second thought. (I like the Poly "manes", personally)

4. non-LDS players don't really care that KW and other coaches are LDS. For that matter, WHO CARES if Whitt is not 100% attendance LDS. (I don't know, it doesn't atter.)

If I'm recruiting against BYU I simply put up a powerpoint slide with the Top 5 Priorities of Bronco. Football isn't anywhere near the top. Nuff said.

Going to Utah if you are LDS is like Diet Coke, without the after taste. BYU kicks players out of school that even the LDS church wouldn't kick out of the church. How arrogant is that?