Play calling question

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by 8ballrollin

With TCU getting in the backfield so quickly, I'm surprised BYU hasn't run any screens or mixed in play action. Does BYU shy away from the screen?

Running screens requires getting the ball to a breakaway threat masked behind blockers.....we don't have a breakaway threat.

Collie is a deep threat...not a breakaway threat.

BYU has never been too keen or adept at running mis-direction.

[Surfah]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Running screens requires getting the ball to a breakaway threat masked behind blockers.....we don't have a breakaway threat.

Collie is a deep threat...not a breakaway threat.

BYU has never been too keen or adept at running mis-direction.

The horrible announcing crew last night was saying that Anae didn't put any misdirection in his playbook because he knows what his players do best and sticks with that.

I just wish he could stick with the run.

[RockyBalboa]

Originally Posted by Surfah

The horrible announcing crew last night was saying that Anae didn't put any misdirection in his playbook because he knows what his players do best and sticks with that.

I just wish he could stick with the run.

But don't you know that execution running the same 4 plays over and over again is unstoppable?

[tooblue]

Originally Posted by surfah

the horrible announcing crew last night was saying that anae didn't put any misdirection in his playbook because he knows what his players do best and sticks with that.

I just wish he could stick with the run.

run the football!

[cougjunkie]

Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

That's funny because utah has thrown exactly one traditional screen play since 2002. I am being completely honest. it happened last year.

Do you mean running back screens? Because Utah runs wide receiver screens all the time. Casteel scored on one against BYU in 2006.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by ute4ever

He wasn't playing the Payson 27th ward tonight. Instead of having four seconds to make a decision, the Frogs gave him less than two.

Come on. He almost always had more than 2 seconds. BYU needed to plan for the pressure and get the ball out of his hands in 2 seconds anyways, much like they did against UCLA when they expected Walker's defense to blitz on every down.

[Flystripper]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

It was clear early on that Hall was really struggling. Who knows what happened to him tonight. He was more locked onto his first read than I have ever seen him.

You must not have been paying attention against USU and UNM. Early in the year Collie and Pitta were open on every play. The past 3 games they have not been open as much yet he continues to try to force them the ball.

In 2006 Beck had 9 receivers with over 20 receptions. In 2008 Max hall is on pace to only have only 5 with over 20 catches and Collie and Pitta should have well over over 80 each. In 2006, Brown was the leading receiver with 60 something catches. The ball is not being spread around and Max is a big part of the problem. Last night the problem was exacerbated by the rush. He did not have time to go through his progressions on every play, but max has been forcing it all season even when he has not been pressured.

[cougjunkie]

Originally Posted by Flystripper

You must not have been paying attention against USU and UNM. Early in the year Collie and Pitta were open on every play. The past 3 games they have not been open as much yet he continues to try to force them the ball.

In 2006 Beck had 9 receivers with over 20 receptions. In 2008 Max hall is on pace to only have only 5 with over 20 catches and Collie and Pitta should have well over over 80 each. In 2006, Brown was the leading receiver with 60 something catches. The ball is not being spread around and Max is a big part of the problem. Last night the problem was exacerbated by the rush. He did not have time to go through his progressions on every play, but max has been forcing it all season even when he has not been pressured.

Spreading the ball around is important but we really dont have a 3rd wideout this year like Beck had in 2006. Also Beck checked down to much and Max doesnt check down enough.

[Surfah]

Originally Posted by cougjunkie

Spreading the ball around is important but we really dont have a 3rd wideout this year like Beck had in 2006. Also Beck checked down to much and Max doesnt check down enough.

Hall had Unga out in the flat several times but never looked. Unga could pick up a couple on each of those and if he makes one guy miss then he has some YAC.

[Flystripper]

Originally Posted by cougjunkie

Spreading the ball around is important but we really dont have a 3rd wideout this year like Beck had in 2006. Also Beck checked down to much and Max doesnt check down enough.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle as you indicate, but this is the list of receivers Beck threw to with their 2006 receptions.

BROWN, Curtis 62
HARLINE, Jonny 58
JACOBSON, 28
ALLEN, Matt 27
COLLIE, Zac 26
REED, Michael 25
TONGA, Manase 23
COATS, Daniel 22
MEIKLE, Nathan 21

I think our current group of receivers is = or better this year. I think Max is locking in on Pitta and Collie too much. The reason he does this is because of his early season success, but until he can break free from this crutch he will struggle. Just my opinion.