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8ballrollin · 10-17-2008, 01:44 AM

With TCU getting in the backfield so quickly, I'm surprised BYU hasn't run any screens or mixed in play action. Does BYU shy away from the screen?

tooblue · 10-17-2008, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 8ballrollin

With TCU getting in the backfield so quickly, I'm surprised BYU hasn't run any screens or mixed in play action. Does BYU shy away from the screen?

Anae does not have a screen in his play book ... and he refuses to run the football!

Mormon Red Death · 10-17-2008, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 8ballrollin

With TCU getting in the backfield so quickly, I'm surprised BYU hasn't run any screens or mixed in play action. Does BYU shy away from the screen?

That's funny because utah has thrown exactly one traditional screen play since 2002. I am being completely honest. it happened last year.

exUte · 10-17-2008, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tooblue

Anae does not have a screen in his play book ... and he refuses to run the football!

panicks.

Hot Lunch · 10-17-2008, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death

That's funny because utah has thrown exactly one traditional screen play since 2002. I am being completely honest. it happened last year.

I am calling bullshit on that one.

Mormon Red Death · 10-17-2008, 04:38 AM

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I am calling bullshit on that one.

Can you remember one? I know for certain the 2003 and 2004 teams did not call a traditional screen pass. I don't remember one in 2005, 2006. (granted I am in Michigan and missed some games those year even though I certainly listened). Utah has run the laser screen a lot but not the traditional screen pass.

Cali Coug · 10-17-2008, 04:46 AM

It was clear early on that Hall was really struggling. Who knows what happened to him tonight. He was more locked onto his first read than I have ever seen him. Of course, as the game progressed he didn't have much time to check down to anyone else given the pressure, but he was bad all night long. He threw behind recievers, forced passes into double coverage with no realistic chance for anything good to happen, and looked completely uninspiring on the field. Unga was getting some good yards early on in the game (3-4 yards on each carry, which is all you need to win), but BYU pretty quickly gave up on the run. Who knows why. The passing game sure wasn't going to win it for BYU tonight. Pitta was almost a non-factor.

On defense, BYU's biggest problem is at the middle linebacker spot. The MLBs don't have the speed they need to cover the middle of the field effectively, so if they drop into coverage, they have a hard time making up any lost ground for a delayed draw or a QB run. That, and the D line didn't get any pressure on TCU all night.

I really thought BYU would switch to a no huddle and snap the ball really quickly. It did wonders for OU and really screwed with TCU's rotations. They never really did it, and when they went with the no huddle, it was still taking 30 seconds to snap the ball. Unreal. On defense, they ran very few stunts.

What a depressing game.

8ballrollin · 10-17-2008, 07:32 AM

Follow-up question/comment...

Against UW I thought BYU used the TE as a kind of hot read. Hall would hit him on quick slants. It seemed effective against pressure, but I didn't see that tonight. Not having an EZ camera angle I have no idea if this was because of the play calling or coverage - I couldn't see how the LBs were playing Pitta.

ute4ever · 10-17-2008, 07:54 AM

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It was clear early on that Hall was really struggling. Who knows what happened to him tonight.

He wasn't playing the Payson 27th ward tonight. Instead of having four seconds to make a decision, the Frogs gave him less than two.

DrumNFeather · 10-17-2008, 12:24 PM

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He wasn't playing the Payson 27th ward tonight. Instead of having four seconds to make a decision, the Frogs gave him less than two.

That's a good point. Max Has been upright most of his career as the starting QB, which is a credit to him, the line, and the offensive weapons, but TCU did a good job of mixing up their defenses and rattling him early, setting the tone for an unsettled Hall all game.

Never thought I'd be giving Dick Bubbus that much credit.

10-17-2008, 01:44 AM	#1
8ballrollin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: WA Posts: 1,287	Play calling question With TCU getting in the backfield so quickly, I'm surprised BYU hasn't run any screens or mixed in play action. Does BYU shy away from the screen? __________________ "Five to one... One in five No one here gets out alive"

10-17-2008, 07:32 AM	#8
8ballrollin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: WA Posts: 1,287	Follow-up question/comment... Against UW I thought BYU used the TE as a kind of hot read. Hall would hit him on quick slants. It seemed effective against pressure, but I didn't see that tonight. Not having an EZ camera angle I have no idea if this was because of the play calling or coverage - I couldn't see how the LBs were playing Pitta. __________________ "Five to one... One in five No one here gets out alive"

10-17-2008, 04:46 AM	#7
Cali Coug Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,996	It was clear early on that Hall was really struggling. Who knows what happened to him tonight. He was more locked onto his first read than I have ever seen him. Of course, as the game progressed he didn't have much time to check down to anyone else given the pressure, but he was bad all night long. He threw behind recievers, forced passes into double coverage with no realistic chance for anything good to happen, and looked completely uninspiring on the field. Unga was getting some good yards early on in the game (3-4 yards on each carry, which is all you need to win), but BYU pretty quickly gave up on the run. Who knows why. The passing game sure wasn't going to win it for BYU tonight. Pitta was almost a non-factor. On defense, BYU's biggest problem is at the middle linebacker spot. The MLBs don't have the speed they need to cover the middle of the field effectively, so if they drop into coverage, they have a hard time making up any lost ground for a delayed draw or a QB run. That, and the D line didn't get any pressure on TCU all night. I really thought BYU would switch to a no huddle and snap the ball really quickly. It did wonders for OU and really screwed with TCU's rotations. They never really did it, and when they went with the no huddle, it was still taking 30 seconds to snap the ball. Unreal. On defense, they ran very few stunts. What a depressing game.