BYU football is dead to me this year

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

I still think that is quite a stretch to blame all of those mistakes on the QB. The coaching staff, maybe. But not the QB. On the other hand, I suppose that is a long-standing BYU tradition.

In fairness, you may be correct that it's a combination of failures, the staff's, the players, and we transfer our disappointment to the leader of the team.

This team is ordinary and will likely fare well against conference competition, but it's not special. That is all.

I was shamelessly hoping for somethig special.

[myboynoah]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Well, I'm pretty depressed also. But I think folks are being a bit too harsh on Beck. I thought he played quite well. Lack of a running game was a big part of the outcome. Beck can't block can he? He didn't make the fumble on the first play. He didn't drop the hold on the field goal. He didn't push off in the end zone. He didn't do a defensive hold on the INT play by Jensen. If everyone had played as well as Beck, we would have won this game going away. We lost in spite of Beck, not because of Beck.

I agree with this. I think the O-line is as much to blame as anybody (Hoya mentioned this on CB shortly after the game). How many false starts were there? Sitting second and 3 is much different than second 8 due to a penalty. We have this vaunted O-line and they can't even spring CB for more that 3 yards at best. That was dissapointing.

Beck is not great. He can't take the whole team on his shoulders and win despite the team's shortcomings (Detmer, Young, and McMahon were great at this). But Beck can appear great with a better effort from the rest of the team.

Arch, you do this every year, my friend. BYU loses a game they could have easily won and you go all Charlie Brown on us. I'm holding off Charlie Brown until at least mid-season. I'm expecting a W against BC for no other reason than we always split 2-game series with teams east of the Mississippi (go ahead, check the record). Okay, other than Notre Dame, but that is a 2&1, so it doesn't count, and we still end up getting a win in those series. Besides, their God is stronger than ours (we need a Touchdown Jesus of our own).

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by myboynoah

I agree with this. I think the O-line is as much to blame as anybody (Hoya mentioned this on CB shortly after the game). How many false starts were there? Sitting second and 3 is much different than second 8 due to a penalty. We have this vaunted O-line and they can't even spring CB for more that 3 yards at best. That was dissapointing.

Beck is not great. He can't take the whole team on his shoulders and win despite the team's shortcomings (Detmer, Young, and McMahon were great at this). But Beck can appear great with a better effort from the rest of the team.

Arch, you do this every year, my friend. BYU loses a game they could have easily won and you go all Charlie Brown on us. I'm holding off Charlie Brown until at least mid-season. I'm expecting a W against BC for no other reason than we always split 2-game series with teams east of the Mississippi (go ahead, check the record). Okay, other than Notre Dame, but that is a 2&1, so it doesn't count, and we still end up getting a win in those series. Besides, their God is stronger than ours (we need a Touchdown Jesus of our own).

But this season I have already turned off college football on CB. BYU is no longer fun to watch, at least for me.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by Archaea

and nobody should try to convince me Beck is a good quarterback. He might be a great human being, but he is subpar when it counts on the field.

BYU has two more chances to resurrect itself, against BC and if possible in a meaningful bowl game, otherwise, the team is in the doldrums, once again. After thirty years of entertainment, I would say the first twenty years were a good investment, but these last ten have been a poor investment of time and entertainment.

Every year, I go Charlie Brown, hoping my hopes won't be dashed in the first game, but alas Lucy always pulls the rug out, nonetheless.

I am looking forward to one of my favorite years ever!!! I love this team. They play hard, run hard and are feisty.

I can't wait to see them up against BC!!!

[RockyBalboa]

Beck really sucked against Tulsa. (TIC)

[All-American]

Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Beck really sucked against Tulsa. (TIC)

He DID slide on that 3rd down play. Losing battles just to win the war? Some field general.