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ewth8tr · 06-07-2008, 09:13 PM

and I have no idea if this is even true, but someone in my EQ a few weeks brought up that the King James Bible is an english translation of the bible (ok, I already knew that) and that it is only used by English speaking churches, both LDS as well as other denominations, and that other countries use a different version of the bible, but he had no idea which one. Is this true, and if so, what version do LDS members in other countries use if not the King James version?

MikeWaters · 06-07-2008, 09:15 PM

where I was, there was both a Catholic and Protestant Bible, and I think I used the Protestant one.

As far as I could tell, most members didn't use the Bible much at all. But there was no "official" LDS preference for either translation, I think.

Solon · 06-07-2008, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

where I was, there was both a Catholic and Protestant Bible, and I think I used the Protestant one.

As far as I could tell, most members didn't use the Bible much at all. But there was no "official" LDS preference for either translation, I think.

In France we used a protestant bible. The Louis Second translation. I think it was more of a political move than a translation thing - that, and the powers-that-be probably wanted to avoid apocrypha.

Occasionally, someone in church would read from what was obviously a different version. Nobody batted an eye.

SCcoug · 06-07-2008, 10:02 PM

In Argentina we used the Reina Valera, but it wasn't published by the church like the KJV LDS bible, with cross references, topical guide, JST ect.

Sleeping in EQ · 06-07-2008, 10:21 PM

Technically, the KJV is a revion of the Bishop's Bible, and is not, strictly speaking, a translation.

I know that at least some of the Spanish Speaking Mormons use the Reina Valera.

Of course non-English speakers wouldn't use the KJV. It wouldn't make any sense to translate into Jacobean English and then into their languages.

Good question, ewth8tr.

ewth8tr · 06-07-2008, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

Technically, the KJV is a revion of the Bishop's Bible, and is not, strictly speaking, a translation.

I know that at least some of the Spanish Speaking Mormons use the Reina Valera.

Of course non-English speakers wouldn't use the KJV. It wouldn't make any sense to translate into Jacobean English and then into their languages.

Good question, ewth8tr.

thanks, we actually had a pretty good lesson that week. Usually, my ADHD kicks in and I can't even remember what the lesson was about.

Clark Addison · 06-08-2008, 05:59 PM

When I was in Hong Kong, most people used a version that was translated into Chinese from the KJV (I believe I am remembering this correctly), so they did use something very close to the KJV.

Archaea · 06-08-2008, 06:28 PM

When I first served in Germany we used the Luther Bible, and then later transferred to the ecumenical translation, a joint effort between Lutherans and Catholics, called die Einheitsuebersetzung.

The preference for the KJV, which is not largely out of favor, except within the LDS Church, is that the Vorwort page states that its purpose is to present it in the people's language, not some elevated form of speech no longer used.

ERCougar · 06-10-2008, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Solon

In France we used a protestant bible. The Louis Second translation. I think it was more of a political move than a translation thing - that, and the powers-that-be probably wanted to avoid apocrypha.

Occasionally, someone in church would read from what was obviously a different version. Nobody batted an eye.

It's actually the Louis Segond (sp) translation. Maybe you already knew this, but it's not after a French king--Louis Segond was a swiss theologian.

bigpiney · 06-10-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ERCougar

It's actually the Louis Segond (sp) translation. Maybe you already knew this, but it's not after a French king--Louis Segond was a swiss theologian.

That is cool, I always thought it was after the king, like the king james version in english. I'll have to dust mine tonight.

06-07-2008, 09:13 PM	#1
ewth8tr Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South Salt Lake, Utah Posts: 1,742	Probably a stupid question.... and I have no idea if this is even true, but someone in my EQ a few weeks brought up that the King James Bible is an english translation of the bible (ok, I already knew that) and that it is only used by English speaking churches, both LDS as well as other denominations, and that other countries use a different version of the bible, but he had no idea which one. Is this true, and if so, what version do LDS members in other countries use if not the King James version? __________________ "Seig heil!" - ExUte Må din pung bli överkörd av femhundra siamesiska elefantbögar samtidigt som du får en ananas uppkörd långt upp i rektum - Most common thing said to LiveCoug on his mission.

06-07-2008, 10:21 PM	#5
Sleeping in EQ Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The People's Republic of Monsanto Posts: 3,085	Technically, the KJV is a revion of the Bishop's Bible, and is not, strictly speaking, a translation. I know that at least some of the Spanish Speaking Mormons use the Reina Valera. Of course non-English speakers wouldn't use the KJV. It wouldn't make any sense to translate into Jacobean English and then into their languages. Good question, ewth8tr. __________________ "Do not despise the words of prophets, but test everything; hold fast to what is good; " 1 Thess. 5:21 (NRSV) We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

06-08-2008, 06:28 PM	#8
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	When I first served in Germany we used the Luther Bible, and then later transferred to the ecumenical translation, a joint effort between Lutherans and Catholics, called die Einheitsuebersetzung. The preference for the KJV, which is not largely out of favor, except within the LDS Church, is that the Vorwort page states that its purpose is to present it in the people's language, not some elevated form of speech no longer used. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

06-07-2008, 09:15 PM	#2
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	where I was, there was both a Catholic and Protestant Bible, and I think I used the Protestant one. As far as I could tell, most members didn't use the Bible much at all. But there was no "official" LDS preference for either translation, I think.

06-07-2008, 10:02 PM	#4
SCcoug Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 81	In Argentina we used the Reina Valera, but it wasn't published by the church like the KJV LDS bible, with cross references, topical guide, JST ect.

06-08-2008, 05:59 PM	#7
Clark Addison Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 638	When I was in Hong Kong, most people used a version that was translated into Chinese from the KJV (I believe I am remembering this correctly), so they did use something very close to the KJV.