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cougjunkie · 06-13-2006, 09:56 PM

I have laid down a bike twice in my life, once I was wearing shorts and laid it down in loose gravel, I slid about 20 feet.

Needless to say the hospital visit with the brush to clean my leg was not fun. They also pulled a 1 inch by 1 inch rock from just below my knee that was so in so deep they had to cut a pretty big whole in my leg to get it out.

SteelBlue · 06-13-2006, 11:06 PM

I'm an occupational therapist. I recently worked with a patient in his early 50's who has been riding since he was 16. He was in a group of 10 riders and was hit by a lady who came across the yellow line around a corner. It was his first accident on his bike ever. They brought him in with the worst Tib/Fib fracture I've ever seen and with his foot hanging on by skin. His forefoot came in a plastic bag. Needless to say he lost the leg. I've seen too many of these guys. I know I'm seeing a skewed sample but I don't care.

Zulu451 · 06-14-2006, 12:22 AM

If motorcycle accidents just killed people that would not be the problem. Hey, you are dead and no longer a burden to your family, friends or society in general. It is the guys who survive their accidents, and are taking the short bus to school and work for the rest of their lives. They are the ones who sit around drooling all over themselves while their wife wipes their butt for them and they get blendered cheeseburgers pushed through their gastric feeding tubes for the next 25 years while they wait for the impending painful death from a pneumonia. YOU WISHED YOU WERE DEAD!

If someone wants to ride a motorcycle, you should pay more than me for health and life insurance. Same as the two fat chicks on my avatar. You have increased risk, you should shoulder that increased risk.

creekster · 06-14-2006, 12:24 AM

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Robin -

If motorcycle accidents just killed people that would not be the problem. Hey, you are dead and no longer a burden to your family, friends or society in general. It is the guys who survive their accidents, and are taking the short bus to school and work for the rest of their lives. They are the ones who sit around drooling all over themselves while their wife wipes their butt for them and they get blendered cheeseburgers pushed through their gastric feeding tubes for the next 25 years while they wait for the impending painful death from a pneumonia. YOU WISHED YOU WERE DEAD!

If someone wants to ride a motorcycle, you should pay more than me for health and life insurance. Same as the two fat chicks on my avatar. You have increased risk, you should shoulder that increased risk.

Be easy on Robin on this topic; he seems to be coming to a realiztion of the risk simply through posting to himself.

Zulu451 · 06-14-2006, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelBlue

I'm an occupational therapist. I recently worked with a patient in his early 50's who has been riding since he was 16. He was in a group of 10 riders and was hit by a lady who came across the yellow line around a corner. It was his first accident on his bike ever. They brought him in with the worst Tib/Fib fracture I've ever seen and with his foot hanging on by skin. His forefoot came in a plastic bag. Needless to say he lost the leg. I've seen too many of these guys. I know I'm seeing a skewed sample but I don't care.

I take trauma call at a level I trauma center and as one can see in my posts see a very skewed sample of our population. The only thing that gets me more fired up are drunk drivers, people who pick up rattlesnakes, and hillbillies who get their peckers shot off while poaching deer!

Archaea · 06-14-2006, 12:38 AM

People pick up rattlesnakes, while the snake lives? What on God's earth for?

If a snake leaves me alone, I"m happy to leave it alone.

il Padrino Ute · 06-14-2006, 12:40 AM

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IMO: If you want to ride a motorcycle, you must have a signed organ donor card, and health insurance. You can be the best rider, but you are subject to the whims of the SUV driving soccer moms who will run you down like a dog in the road. I have seen marvelously injured people from motorcycle accidents, and it is never the driver of the SUV that gets it bad.

I can agree with the increased insurance costs for riding a motorcycle, but why do you feel that one must have an organ donor card?

Robin · 06-14-2006, 01:13 AM

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If motorcycle accidents just killed people that would not be the problem. Hey, you are dead and no longer a burden to your family, friends or society in general. It is the guys who survive their accidents, and are taking the short bus to school and work for the rest of their lives. They are the ones who sit around drooling all over themselves while their wife wipes their butt for them and they get blendered cheeseburgers pushed through their gastric feeding tubes for the next 25 years while they wait for the impending painful death from a pneumonia. YOU WISHED YOU WERE DEAD!

If someone wants to ride a motorcycle, you should pay more than me for health and life insurance. Same as the two fat chicks on my avatar. You have increased risk, you should shoulder that increased risk.

And yet insurance for motorcycles is actually less than for other vehicles, since the motorcyclist presents less threat to others around him. Maybe the motorcyclist assumes greater personal risk to life and limb, but the SUV driver represents a greater threat to those around her, and contributes to pollution levels that cause increased risk of asthma.

If EVERYONE rode motorcycles, and if leather and helmets were required by all, and if trucks were confined to one slow lane of traffic, you would see a lot of broken limbs and road rash and a lot less death. Why should the motorcyclist assume the extra liability? It is the other cars that present the risk to the motorcyclists, and not the other way around. Motorcyclists live in a dangerous world, as Mike pointed out, where accidents are usually caused by others. Drivers need to learn how to look out for motorcyclists. A lot of drivers claim they don't see motorcyclists, but the truth is they simply usually aren't looking for them.

I am well aware that motorcyclists assume risks, because when you get run over by a fool in an SUV who is on a cel phone and not paying attention to the road, and then cuts into the HOV lane and knocks you off your bike before running over your leg, 'fault' will be a moot point. But passing on the liability of a road full of those idiots in SUVs to the motorcyclists is like telling a rape victim that she was responsible for the rape because her jeans were too tight.

creekster · 06-14-2006, 01:16 AM

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The only thing that gets me more fired up are . . . hillbillies who get their peckers shot off while poaching deer!

Or at least they CLAIM that's what they were doing.

Colly Wolly · 06-14-2006, 01:18 AM

Its really a damn shame. I wonder if athletes would balk at the pro leagues implementing a blanket no-motorcycle policy. I think baseball already does.

If you hurt yourself riding a motorcycle, the team you signed with should not be obligated to fulfill its contractual duties to you as you are unable to perform your duties on the field.

If you are a pro-athlete and still choose to ride under this policy, you better get AFLAC.

06-13-2006, 09:56 PM	#11
cougjunkie Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 5,741	I have laid down a bike twice in my life, once I was wearing shorts and laid it down in loose gravel, I slid about 20 feet. Needless to say the hospital visit with the brush to clean my leg was not fun. They also pulled a 1 inch by 1 inch rock from just below my knee that was so in so deep they had to cut a pretty big whole in my leg to get it out. __________________ LINCECUM!

06-14-2006, 12:22 AM	#13
Zulu451 house-elf 3rd class Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 386	If motorcycle accidents just killed people that would not be the problem. Hey, you are dead and no longer a burden to your family, friends or society in general. It is the guys who survive their accidents, and are taking the short bus to school and work for the rest of their lives. They are the ones who sit around drooling all over themselves while their wife wipes their butt for them and they get blendered cheeseburgers pushed through their gastric feeding tubes for the next 25 years while they wait for the impending painful death from a pneumonia. YOU WISHED YOU WERE DEAD! If someone wants to ride a motorcycle, you should pay more than me for health and life insurance. Same as the two fat chicks on my avatar. You have increased risk, you should shoulder that increased risk. Last edited by Zulu451; 06-14-2006 at 12:31 AM.

06-14-2006, 12:38 AM	#16
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	People pick up rattlesnakes, while the snake lives? What on God's earth for? If a snake leaves me alone, I"m happy to leave it alone. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

06-13-2006, 11:06 PM	#12
SteelBlue Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Norcal Posts: 5,821	I'm an occupational therapist. I recently worked with a patient in his early 50's who has been riding since he was 16. He was in a group of 10 riders and was hit by a lady who came across the yellow line around a corner. It was his first accident on his bike ever. They brought him in with the worst Tib/Fib fracture I've ever seen and with his foot hanging on by skin. His forefoot came in a plastic bag. Needless to say he lost the leg. I've seen too many of these guys. I know I'm seeing a skewed sample but I don't care.

06-14-2006, 01:18 AM	#20
Colly Wolly Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,281	Its really a damn shame. I wonder if athletes would balk at the pro leagues implementing a blanket no-motorcycle policy. I think baseball already does. If you hurt yourself riding a motorcycle, the team you signed with should not be obligated to fulfill its contractual duties to you as you are unable to perform your duties on the field. If you are a pro-athlete and still choose to ride under this policy, you better get AFLAC.