Yesterday the Relief Society

[K-dog]

Originally Posted by BYU71

That had to be a discussion that got off track from the lesson itself. I am sure it never said in the lesson quide, "now perk the interest of the Sisters by asking if the Holy Ghost is male or feemale."

He is male, with feminine tendencies. That is how he can speak in a small still voice.

Apparently it got a little heated too. Lesson manual: "get the sisters to argue concerning the nature of the Holy Ghost and the divinity of a male dominated priesthood."

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by K-dog

I'm aware of that...that's why it was a follow-up question.

Are you asking if divine beings collectively can be both male and female, or if individual diving beings can be both male and female?

Yes to the former, no to the latter.

[K-dog]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Are you asking if divine beings collectively can be both male and female, or if individual diving beings can be both male and female?

Yes to the former, no to the latter.

That's my primary thought on the subject but I've heard some interesting things focused on the plural nature of Elohim and the meaning behind it. Some think that Elohim is a collective referring to a male half and a female half combining to make a whole. Sort of a Father and Mother who are united in all things raising their children. I like the idea in some ways and wondered if others thought it had legs.

[DrumNFeather]

I'm too lazy to find the link, but Fus has proposed this idea as well, citing scriptures and everything. As I recall, it was an interesting thread...but that was a long time ago.

[Spaz]

Originally Posted by K-dog

That's my primary thought on the subject but I've heard some interesting things focused on the plural nature of Elohim and the meaning behind it. Some think that Elohim is a collective referring to a male half and a female half combining to make a whole. Sort of a Father and Mother who are united in all things raising their children. I like the idea in some ways and wondered if others thought it had legs.

Just to confirm I have the gist of the line of thought correct...are you talking about an individual divine being (God) as being both female & male, or are you talking about 'God' as referring to the partnership of two divine beings, one of which is male & one of which is female, working together as a single entity?


The latter is where my opinion lies, while the former I find unlikely but not faith-shaking were it true.

[Sleeping in EQ]

Few notions are more convoluted in the LDS Church than the HG. Of course the Lectures on Faith, which were the "doctrine" part of the D&C from 1835 until 1921, taught a kind of binitarianism, with the HG being the shared mind of the Father and the Son.

Today, many LDS people talk about the "Spirit" in a very superstitious fashion. At BYU-I, someone could be drinking a caffeinated beverage and those around her would say things like "the Spirit just left."

It's bizarre.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

Few notions are more convoluted in the LDS Church than the HG. Of course the Lectures on Faith, which were the "doctrine" part of the D&C from 1835 until 1921, taught a kind of binitarianism, with the HG being the shared mind of the Father and the Son.

Today, many LDS people talk about the "Spirit" in a very superstitious fashion. At BYU-I, someone could be drinking a caffeinated beverage and those around her would say things like "the Spirit just left."

It's bizarre.

IN my opinion, the spirit leaves the room when those types walk in.

[K-dog]

Originally Posted by Spaz

Just to confirm I have the gist of the line of thought correct...are you talking about an individual divine being (God) as being both female & male, or are you talking about 'God' as referring to the partnership of two divine beings, one of which is male & one of which is female, working together as a single entity?


The latter is where my opinion lies, while the former I find unlikely but not faith-shaking were it true.

The latter.

[K-dog]

Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

Few notions are more convoluted in the LDS Church than the HG. Of course the Lectures on Faith, which were the "doctrine" part of the D&C from 1835 until 1921, taught a kind of binitarianism, with the HG being the shared mind of the Father and the Son.

Today, many LDS people talk about the "Spirit" in a very superstitious fashion. At BYU-I, someone could be drinking a caffeinated beverage and those around her would say things like "the Spirit just left."

It's bizarre.

I find the "spirit just left" stuff to be amusing.

[Spaz]

Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

Few notions are more convoluted in the LDS Church than the HG. Of course the Lectures on Faith, which were the "doctrine" part of the D&C from 1835 until 1921, taught a kind of binitarianism, with the HG being the shared mind of the Father and the Son.

Today, many LDS people talk about the "Spirit" in a very superstitious fashion. At BYU-I, someone could be drinking a caffeinated beverage and those around her would say things like "the Spirit just left."

It's bizarre.

Apparently I don't have the spirit with me just now, as I'm sipping on my 1-liter Cherry Pepsi.