08-20-2008, 04:05 AM | #11 | |
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Surely, you aren't serious about not giving your daughter the MAP. What makes you think that giving up a child would do nothing to her soul? She could feel that torment for the rest of her life. It must be nice to be able to think/believe in absolutes all the time. |
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08-20-2008, 04:13 AM | #12 |
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My recollection is that the pill before may also result in a post conception/pre-implantation termination. Anyone (mike, ercoug, or other Dr. type) know if this is correct?
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Why? If you don't want your daughter to take it I assume you think a day old zygote is a life. Is it okay to slit the throat of a two-year old child conceived of rape? That's your reasoning, isn't it?
If that's not your reasoning is your reasoning that your daughter did an irresponsible thing and now she must be made to pay--learn the hard way--for her mistake? You're nuts here.
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Agree with this. The parents are POS. Not for giving her the pill, for violating her privacy.
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08-20-2008, 07:33 AM | #15 | |
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Personally, I think it's tough to justify Levin's position, given the facts. EDIT: I should say that the idea that the pill occasionally prevents implantation rather than fertilization is somewhat controversial, although I'm not sure it should be. We KNOW that there are women who still ovulate on the pill, so it seems pretty clear that at least occasionally, it's preventing implantation. I suspect the controversy is more due to the political ramifications of this than the science behind it. Last edited by ERCougar; 08-20-2008 at 07:36 AM. |
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08-20-2008, 12:45 PM | #16 |
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I've prescribed Plan B a bunch of times when I moonlight in ERs. I have no ethical problem with it whatsoever. In my mind it does not equate with abortion in any way, shape or form. Nobody who does in vitro fertilization argues that every single embryo that is created has a right to be born. A zygote is not a child.
I was working in a rural ER in Minnesota during my residency. One of the nurses asked me if I would prescribe Plan B to a 14-year old girl who didn't want to be charged for the ER visit because she didn't want the bill to go to her parents. I went ahead and gave the poor girl the prescription without charging her for the visit, along with a lecture on how stupid and reckless she was being. I felt like that was the right thing to do. The morning after pill should be over-the-counter anyway. |
08-20-2008, 01:48 PM | #17 |
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Wow, it's hard for me to believe that it's an extremist position to NOT feel comfortable in urging and encouraging the morning after pill.
So I take it some of you have taught your daughters this very thing? That if they ever have unprotected sex, they should go to the ER and have the possible pregnancy terminated? Seriously, does anyone here have the balls to say that this is what they teach their children? I take it you have also taught your sons to encourage their sex partners to do the same thing? I do not see a big ethical difference between a morning afte pill and a first trimester abortion. Do those of you that encourage the MAP, also teach that abortion in the first trimester is ok? If not, then I have a hard time with the idea that you can teach abortion is "like unto murder" but the MAP is encouraged! |
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Is there anything more entertaining than watching a bunch of affluent old men split hairs over this stuff?
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08-20-2008, 02:04 PM | #19 | |
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I realize the affect on the friends and relatives of the woman who conceives consentually or by rape, but what is the difference to the fetus. If it is wrong to end the fetus of a consentual transaction, why is it not wrong to end it from rape. For those who take the stand in one case it is wrong and in the other it is not, give me the justification of such. It can't be because it is taking a human life. |
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