Who can figure out President Packer?

[Detroitdad]

President Packer's institute song is gay by contemporary standards. However, my father, who would have been just a few years younger than Packer, and his friends (all non-LDS including my dad) used to call themselves the "Gopher Boys" and sing a song that went "we're the Gopher boys, and we "gopher" girls, but they don't gopher us" followed by gopher noises. Apparently this was not considered enormously geeky in the 40's and 50's.

BTW I have always thought of Elder Packer as the Darth Vader of the Q12.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Detroitdad

President Packer's institute song is gay by contemporary standards. However, my father, who would have been just a few years younger than Packer, and his friends (all non-LDS including my dad) used to call themselves the "Gopher Boys" and sing a song that went "we're the Gopher boys, and we "gopher" girls, but they don't gopher us" followed by gopher noises. Apparently this was not considered enormously geeky in the 40's and 50's.

BTW I have always thought of Elder Packer as the Darth Vader of the Q12.

Well my kids freak out when I go for a mindblasting version of Stairway to Heaven or the Lemon Song, but they just don't get it.

[Detroitdad]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Well my kids freak out when I go for a mindblasting version of Stairway to Heaven or the Lemon Song, but they just don't get it.

Your children don't relate to the "Lemon Song?" I have always thought of that song as the perfect way to teach about the birds and the bees. IIRC that is the one that talks about the "juice running down..."

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Archaea

He gives some doozies.

The talk he gave years ago about the need to glorify awful poetry, the need not to tell negative stories and the recent silly song. What is his angle?

He lacks breeding. Don't overcomplicate this. As with most things the simplest and most common sense explanation is the most likely true. In no other realm is this more true than Mormonism. I bet he hasn't even read Homer, Shakespeare, Tolstoy or Melville. He may not even be able to tell the difference between Beethoven and Mozart.

[All-American]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

He lacks breeding. Don't overcomplicate this. As with most things the simplest and most common sense explanation is the most likely true. In no other realm is this more true than Mormonism. I bet he hasn't even read Homer, Shakespeare, Tolstoy or Melville. He may not even be able to tell the difference between Beethoven and Mozart.

That's a REALLY broad swipe, SU. An especially conservative approach does not necessarily mean an unread, uninformed individual.

With what contact I've had with church leaders, you'd be surprised just how cultured they really are.

[tooblue]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

He lacks breeding. Don't overcomplicate this. As with most things the simplest and most common sense explanation is the most likely true. In no other realm is this more true than Mormonism. I bet he hasn't even read Homer, Shakespeare, Tolstoy or Melville. He may not even be able to tell the difference between Beethoven and Mozart.

He's actually a very talented artist ... I think you'd be surprised at how well read he is.

I quite enjoy Elder Packer's talks and line of thinking with regards to the church and the gospel. He's articulate and certainly not afraid to speak his mind.

He strikes me as more concerned with being happy and at peace with himself and his relationship with God as opposed to vexed by the mysteries of the universe.

[tooblue]

Originally Posted by tooblue

He's actually a very talented artist ... I think you'd be surprised at how well read he is.

I quite enjoy Elder Packer's talks and line of thinking with regards to the church and the gospel. He's articulate and certainly not afraid to speak his mind.

He strikes me as more concerned with being happy and at peace with himself and his relationship with God as opposed to vexed by the mysteries of the universe.

http://www.lds.org/museum/exhibits/packer/

[YOhio]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

He lacks breeding. Don't overcomplicate this. As with most things the simplest and most common sense explanation is the most likely true. In no other realm is this more true than Mormonism. I bet he hasn't even read Homer, Shakespeare, Tolstoy or Melville. He may not even be able to tell the difference between Beethoven and Mozart.

Without overcomplication, your statement reveals much more about you than it does about Boyd K. Packer and Mormons in general.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by YOhio

Without overcomplication, your statement reveals much more about you than it does about Boyd K. Packer and Mormons in general.

SU is acutely sensitive about his upbringing. He's afraid of being exposed as the Utah farmer stock he really is.

Hence the draconian stances: absolutely no music but classical, no TV except for parents at sports bar, etc.

Of course, sometimes his roots come through, like his love of Spielberg movies.

[Goatnapper'96]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

SU is acutely sensitive about his upbringing. He's afraid of being exposed as the Utah farmer stock he really is.

Hence the draconian stances: absolutely no music but classical, no TV except for parents at sports bar, etc.

Of course, sometimes his roots come through, like his love of Spielberg movies.

He is afflicted with an acute sense of self-loathing, much akin to the anglo guilt of leftist liberals he claims to have such disdain towards.

Well that and he is a dickhead. Not to the same extent as aaron shaff, but a dickhead nontheless.