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Old 01-27-2007, 06:28 PM   #11
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Not to hijack, but this is not actually all that dissmilar from what our founders believed. The system they devised only put half of one branch of government in the hands of the masses. Neither the Senate, the President nor the Supreme Court were popularly elected. This was not by accident.

Federalist 10 is instructive:

"The two great points of difference between a democracy and a republic are: first, the delegation of the government, in the latter, to a small number of citizens elected by the rest; secondly, the greater number of citizens, and greater sphere of country, over which the latter may be extended.

The effect of the first difference is, on the one hand, to refine and enlarge the public views, by passing them through the medium of a chosen body of citizens, whose wisdom may best discern the true interest of their country, and whose patriotism and love of justice will be least likely to sacrifice it to temporary or partial considerations. Under such a regulation, it may well happen that the public voice, pronounced by the representatives of the people, will be more consonant to the public good than if pronounced by the people themselves, convened for the purpose."
You are correct. My comment was more to try to provoke some of our more liberal friends into firing back. A bit juvenile, yes, but immaturity is what keeps me young.
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Old 01-27-2007, 06:31 PM   #12
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You are correct. My comment was more to try to provoke some of our more liberal friends into firing back. A bit juvenile, yes, but immaturity is what keeps me young.
I wasn't being critical of you, just sharing an observation that came to mind.
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Old 01-27-2007, 06:35 PM   #13
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I wasn't being critical of you, just sharing an observation that came to mind.
Understood and no worries. At times, I agree with Churchill when he said something close to the general public voting is proof that democracy doesn't work.
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I'll get political. The Chinese communists sound like Mrs. Clinton.
You can troll better than this. I expect more from you. Pick up your game.
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Old 01-28-2007, 01:34 AM   #15
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You can troll better than this. I expect more from you. Pick up your game.
You're right. That was a weak effort. I blame Giacoletti for it.
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You're right. That as a weak effort. I blame Giacoletti for it.
Your blame is well placed. Also, I think that Hillary is just the same kind of scapegoat for you as Giacoletti is so this is a little bit of a (non-sexual) double entendre of sorts, so you have redeemed yourself.

Heckle on.
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Your blame is well placed. Also, I think that Hillary is just the same kind of scapegoat for you as Giacoletti is so this is a little bit of a (non-sexual) double entendre of sorts, so you have redeemed yourself.

Heckle on.


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