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MikeWaters · 04-28-2008, 07:38 PM

Look at the stars in the background: are they Jewish?

Imagine the psychological shock for the 18 and 19 year olds. Never to have seen the sun.

This would be like having lived a small space station, only to arrive in a big bright world.

UtahDan · 04-28-2008, 09:16 PM

Something is making my BS meter go off. I don't know what is might be, but is just feels like there is more to the story that we have heard. The wife of this guy never knew? I didn't see, where they not in the same building? And the daughter who bore the guy these children...he was able to keep her locked in there for more than 20 years? She never had or took the chance to attack him with whatever they had in that little bath room or kitchen?

Maybe is its all what it appears, but it makes no sense to me so far. I think we are hearing a story that has been concocted, at least between husband and wife. Maybe I am off in out space on this one. Just a hunch here.

MikeWaters · 04-28-2008, 09:17 PM

what would be the motive for concocting the story? the joy of being defamed, arrested, charged and punished?

UtahDan · 04-28-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

what would be the motive for concocting the story? the joy of being defamed, arrested, charged and punished?

Yeah I'm not sure. It just doesn't make sense. Maybe a little Stockholm syndrome? I think that somehow wife knew. Interesting that right off daughter says that her mom had nothing to do with it and didn't know. How does she know that? The illness is clearly what made all this come to light. It just has a little whiff of "okay here is what we are going to tell people." Could be I'm way off the mark. Germans are weird.

livecoug · 04-28-2008, 09:51 PM

Stockholm Syndrome is very real, as improbable as it sounds to us.

marsupial · 04-28-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by UtahDan

Something is making my BS meter go off. I don't know what is might be, but is just feels like there is more to the story that we have heard. The wife of this guy never knew? I didn't see, where they not in the same building? And the daughter who bore the guy these children...he was able to keep her locked in there for more than 20 years? She never had or took the chance to attack him with whatever they had in that little bath room or kitchen?

Maybe is its all what it appears, but it makes no sense to me so far. I think we are hearing a story that has been concocted, at least between husband and wife. Maybe I am off in out space on this one. Just a hunch here.

No, I am with you. There is something missing here. I am having a hard time believing that the husband could keep up the charade for 24 years. Perhaps his wife is mentally ill. I think a healthy wife would be saying, "what are those noises coming from the basement?" And, "why do you keep bringing plates of food down to the basement?" And why in 24 years did she never even venture down there for any reason? It doesn't make sense.

MikeWaters · 04-28-2008, 10:02 PM

Again, why would the husband concoct the story?

MikeWaters · 04-28-2008, 10:03 PM

Also don't you think that someone who would raise a child, then imprison and rape her is a little bit controlling.

Don't you think that he, to some degree, dominated in the marriage relationship? Wouldn't she likely have a subservient personality?

UtahDan · 04-28-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Also don't you think that someone who would raise a child, then imprison and rape her is a little bit controlling.

Don't you think that he, to some degree, dominated in the marriage relationship? Wouldn't she likely have a subservient personality?

Yes. Probably. As to why he could concoct it......who knows. I deal with criminals all the time who concoct a story to either hide something worse (what that would be here I have no clue) or because they are trying to make it sound better somehow or because they want to protect someone.

Again. Maybe it is just what it seems to be. Just has a funny odor.

MikeWaters · 04-28-2008, 10:09 PM

another thing, it is natural to react in such a way as to not believe, or to not want to believe, when confronted with evil acts. "it could not be" "it's a hoax" "there is a misunderstanding"

good men do not want to put themselves in a place to know and feel what evil men do.

04-28-2008, 09:16 PM	#12
UtahDan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Bluth Home Posts: 3,877	Something is making my BS meter go off. I don't know what is might be, but is just feels like there is more to the story that we have heard. The wife of this guy never knew? I didn't see, where they not in the same building? And the daughter who bore the guy these children...he was able to keep her locked in there for more than 20 years? She never had or took the chance to attack him with whatever they had in that little bath room or kitchen? Maybe is its all what it appears, but it makes no sense to me so far. I think we are hearing a story that has been concocted, at least between husband and wife. Maybe I am off in out space on this one. Just a hunch here. __________________ The Bible tells us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go. -Galileo

04-28-2008, 07:38 PM	#11
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Look at the stars in the background: are they Jewish? Imagine the psychological shock for the 18 and 19 year olds. Never to have seen the sun. This would be like having lived a small space station, only to arrive in a big bright world.

04-28-2008, 09:17 PM	#13
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	what would be the motive for concocting the story? the joy of being defamed, arrested, charged and punished?

04-28-2008, 09:51 PM	#15
livecoug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,176	Stockholm Syndrome is very real, as improbable as it sounds to us.

04-28-2008, 10:02 PM	#17
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Again, why would the husband concoct the story?

04-28-2008, 10:03 PM	#18
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Also don't you think that someone who would raise a child, then imprison and rape her is a little bit controlling. Don't you think that he, to some degree, dominated in the marriage relationship? Wouldn't she likely have a subservient personality?

04-28-2008, 10:09 PM	#20
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	another thing, it is natural to react in such a way as to not believe, or to not want to believe, when confronted with evil acts. "it could not be" "it's a hoax" "there is a misunderstanding" good men do not want to put themselves in a place to know and feel what evil men do.