what will BYU be ranked in the polls if it wins out?

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Why would an undefeated BYU being left out of the championship game create a bigger controversy than an undefeated Auburn being left out? Nobody is going to get up in arms about a non-BCS team getting the shaft.

Exactly.

And remember, the same year Auburn got the snub in favor of Oklahoma - who got routed by USC - when the final polls came out, Utah was still behind OK in the final rankings, despite being undefeated.

BCS teams will always get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to rankings.

[ERCougar]

Originally Posted by Brian

The rest of the country doesn't see it that way. They see utah, byu and tcu as good teams in a bad conference, unlv as a fluke. Even highly ranked, they are not seen as "really good", really good enough to play for the NC.
Beating Mississippi St by 21 is a lot different than beating wyoming by 21. It just is. And voters know it. Playing relatively bad teams week in and week out is not going to fool anyone.

And no, I didn't think utah should have played for the NC in 05. I don't think they were the 2nd best team in the nation. And neither did anyone else.

Wrong...
There were plenty of people who thought that Utah should have played for the national championship in 05. I lived in Indiana and Michigan, ND and Big Ten country, and there were plenty of people that were complaining Utah didn't get a chance at the NC.

[ERCougar]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

Why would an undefeated BYU being left out of the championship game create a bigger controversy than an undefeated Auburn being left out? Nobody is going to get up in arms about a non-BCS team getting the shaft.

Partially right...It wouldn't be a bigger controversy than Auburn's snub. But it would be talked about.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Exactly.

And remember, the same year Auburn got the snub in favor of Oklahoma - who got routed by USC - when the final polls came out, Utah was still behind OK in the final rankings, despite being undefeated.

BCS teams will always get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to rankings.

Correctamundo, Fonzarelli.

An objective look at BYU shows a team with a lot of promise, but so far we have beaten a Div AA team and 2 pac 10 teams that will be lucky to finish .500. I am really happy about the wins, but I don't get the amount of kool-aid drinking going on quite yet. Our schedule right now only has 1 ranked team on it.

We have lots of work to do. A good start would be to pound Wyoming.

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by ERCougar

Partially right...It wouldn't be a bigger controversy than Auburn's snub. But it would be talked about.

Agreed that it would be talked about.

"BYU got the shaft!"

"yes, but they played in a crappy conference and look at their SOS. Their OOC SOS didnt help them much this year, either."

"Good point"

I am going to enjoy this BYU run and not worry about "what if" scenarios. All BYU can do is win the next game on the schedule. Here's to hoping they hang another 50 on Wyoming.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by ERCougar

Wrong...
There were plenty of people who thought that Utah should have played for the national championship in 05. I lived in Indiana and Michigan, ND and Big Ten country, and there were plenty of people that were complaining Utah didn't get a chance at the NC.

People who know what they are talking about?

Wow, you moved around a lot in 05. (c:

[ERCougar]

Originally Posted by Brian

People who know what they are talking about?

Wow, you moved around a lot in 05. (c:

Well, the same types that hang around on here. So--people who think they know what they're talking about.

The Big Ten may have the most obnoxiously arrogant fanbase in the country with so much to say about so little. Even from them, I heard a fair amount about Utah that year.

I moved that year from Indiana to Michigan (completed residency and took a new job).

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by SteelBlue

Are you forgetting that they have to play each other? Or am I misunderstanding you here?

Obviously I don't mean with respect to each other (just as BYU needs to beat both of them giving them both one loss too).

[Brian]

Originally Posted by ERCougar

Well, the same types that hang around on here. So--people who think they know what they're talking about.

The Big Ten may have the most obnoxiously arrogant fanbase in the country with so much to say about so little. Even from them, I heard a fair amount about Utah that year.

I moved that year from Indiana to Michigan (completed residency and took a new job).

Interesting.

I misread and thought you included ND (North Dakota) in your list of states, so 3 states in a year seemed like a lot.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

We MWC folks aren't taking it too far.

yes you are. I said, if you guys are undefeated and there's no undefeated or one-loss SEC team, you're in the title game. The jokers around here are saying everybody else would have to have four losses. That's absurd. I'm not denying the bias. I'm saying you're overstating it.

A lot has changed since Utah got shafted. Boise State made a statement for the little guys. People want to see the underdog get a chance.

But if you guys want to be taken seriously, you'd better start acting like you deserve to be taken seriously. You're not Sam Houston State - you're BYU. You've got a Heisman trophy winner and a friggin national title. Act like it.