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Old 01-03-2008, 07:51 PM   #11
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Does anyone really think Illinois played as bad as Hawaii did in their bowl game? Sure they both lost by 31, but Hawaii was UNLV awful.
No, but I'm not sure it really matters. Rosie O'Donnell and Rosanne Barr are both overweight unattractive women. I'm not really concerned about ranking them in comparison to each other.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:59 PM   #12
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No, but I'm not sure it really matters. Rosie O'Donnell and Rosanne Barr are both overweight unattractive women. I'm not really concerned about ranking them in comparison to each other.
I choose Roseanne.
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:02 PM   #13
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Hawaii was not nearly as good as either Utah in 04 or Boise last year. For one thing, playing in Hawaii is like playing in a foreign country, with the jet lag and all. It's hell to play there and Hawaii really has a home field advantage on steriods.
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:18 PM   #14
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Hawaii was not nearly as good as either Utah in 04 or Boise last year. For one thing, playing in Hawaii is like playing in a foreign country, with the jet lag and all. It's hell to play there and Hawaii really has a home field advantage on steriods.
Hawaii is definitely the worst of the 3 non-BCS BCS bowl teams.
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Hawaii is definitely the worst of the 3 non-BCS BCS bowl teams.

Throw BYU, Utah, TCU, Air Force, Boise St, Fresno St, C Florida, Tulsa, Florida Atlantic, C Michigan, and Hawaii into a hypothetical Royal Rumble, and Hawaii might finish middle of the pack.
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Throw BYU, Utah, TCU, Air Force, Boise St, Fresno St, C Florida, Tulsa, Florida Atlantic, C Michigan, and Hawaii into a hypothetical Royal Rumble, and Hawaii might finish middle of the pack.
BYU would be an underdog if they played in Honolulu.
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Not a top 25 team? I can see an argument made about not top 12, but top 25 is pushing it too far. You don't go 12-0 without being at least a top 25 team, even against a crappy schedule.
If your schedule is ranked dead last out of 119 other schools, and if you looked terrible in several of the wins (LaTech, Nevada, etc.), then you can absolutely go 12-0 and not be a top 25 team.

Personally, I don't think Hawaii was top 40.
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If your schedule is ranked dead last out of 119 other schools, and if you looked terrible in several of the wins (LaTech, Nevada, etc.), then you can absolutely go 12-0 and not be a top 25 team.

Personally, I don't think Hawaii was top 40.
Honestly, how good was BYU in 1984? Were they really a top 10 team, let alone #1?
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BYU would be an underdog if they played in Honolulu.
But not if they played in ANY of the other 49 states, Saskatchewan, or the Ivory Coast.

Maybe the Sheraton Hawaii Bowl should seek inclusion in the BCS.
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Honestly, how good was BYU in 1984? Were they really a top 10 team, let alone #1?
..as saying BYU in 1984 probably wasn't #1. They were certainly in the top 10 legitimately, which they proved in 1984 and surrounding seasons.

Hawaii proved absolutely ZERO this year. I'm not sure why you defend their abominable schedule and iffy results (MOV in several games).

I'm seriously baffled by it. No, really.
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