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mpfunk · 11-30-2007, 04:11 PM

This post got me thinking. I think it is crazy to believe that any non-BcS team would ever get a shot at the MNC game. Sorry the system is designed to cheap the non-BcS out and even if you have no undefeated BcS teams, it is still going to be two BcS teams.

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MikeWaters · 11-30-2007, 04:13 PM

Only if every other BCS team had two losses, and BYU had a strong non-conf.

DrumNFeather · 11-30-2007, 04:16 PM

The writers in the AP poll might give the cougars a ranking that would help, but I'm not sure the coaches ever would.

jay santos · 11-30-2007, 04:58 PM

Most years they wouldn't with this schedule and going undefeated, but this year they probably would be in the top three in the computers (my model says #2). I think it's reasonable BYU would have been voted up there as well, with all the losses. They might have needed to win more convincingly, though.

I may be an idealist, but I think if you are good enough, you will rise to the top with this BCS formula.

il Padrino Ute · 11-30-2007, 04:59 PM

The BCS will never allow a team that is not in their little cartel to play for their championship.

RockyBalboa · 11-30-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

The BCS will never allow a team that is not in their little cartel to play for their championship.

Completely agree.

The BCS would cease to exist if they ever allowed that to happen.

Surfah · 11-30-2007, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Completely agree.

The BCS would cease to exist if they ever allowed that to happen.

I'm not sure. I think the BCS wants to protect it's Cartel as Il Pad points out, but at the same time in a season with so much upheaval like this year, I think that the BCS would concede and allow it. Then they could point to this season as saying the BCS system works and is fair all the while praying that this aberration of a season never occurs again and that the BCS team with 1 loss takes it to BYU in the MNC so they could also say in the future that they don't belong.

K-dog · 11-30-2007, 05:47 PM

They would have been ranked if they had beaten UCLA. Being ranked that early and then not losing throughout the year would have put them up there. Consider that they would have been ranked before Kansas was. The result is that Kansas, without a great schedule, wouldn't have been able to jump them. That puts them at #1 a few weeks ago in the polls.

jay santos · 11-30-2007, 05:48 PM

The BCS conspiracy theorists drive me a little batty.

BCS schools don't need to protect anything. It's always been theirs and it always will be theirs. The reason Michigan gets more $, TV ratings, national championships, important postseason games, etc. than Tulsa is not due to some conspiracy.

DrumNFeather · 11-30-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyBalboa

Completely agree.

The BCS would cease to exist if they ever allowed that to happen.

Just like the movie Dogma!

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11-30-2007, 04:16 PM	#3
DrumNFeather Active LDS Ute Fan Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nantucket : ) Posts: 2,566	The writers in the AP poll might give the cougars a ranking that would help, but I'm not sure the coaches ever would. __________________ "It's not like we played the school of the blind out there." - Brian Johnson.

11-30-2007, 04:59 PM	#5
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	The BCS will never allow a team that is not in their little cartel to play for their championship. __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

11-30-2007, 05:47 PM	#8
K-dog Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 699	They would have been ranked if they had beaten UCLA. Being ranked that early and then not losing throughout the year would have put them up there. Consider that they would have been ranked before Kansas was. The result is that Kansas, without a great schedule, wouldn't have been able to jump them. That puts them at #1 a few weeks ago in the polls. __________________ He's down by the creek, walkin' on water. K-dog P.S. Grrrrrrrrr

11-30-2007, 04:11 PM	#1
mpfunk Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,619	If BYU was undefeated this year would they play in the MNC game? This post got me thinking. I think it is crazy to believe that any non-BcS team would ever get a shot at the MNC game. Sorry the system is designed to cheap the non-BcS out and even if you have no undefeated BcS teams, it is still going to be two BcS teams. http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/...tml?id=3234137

11-30-2007, 04:13 PM	#2
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Only if every other BCS team had two losses, and BYU had a strong non-conf.

11-30-2007, 04:58 PM	#4
jay santos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,177	Most years they wouldn't with this schedule and going undefeated, but this year they probably would be in the top three in the computers (my model says #2). I think it's reasonable BYU would have been voted up there as well, with all the losses. They might have needed to win more convincingly, though. I may be an idealist, but I think if you are good enough, you will rise to the top with this BCS formula.

11-30-2007, 05:48 PM	#9
jay santos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,177	The BCS conspiracy theorists drive me a little batty. BCS schools don't need to protect anything. It's always been theirs and it always will be theirs. The reason Michigan gets more $, TV ratings, national championships, important postseason games, etc. than Tulsa is not due to some conspiracy.