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Old 07-15-2016, 12:52 PM   #1
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Default Obama Publishes in JAMA!

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article....icleid=2533698
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I seriously doubt he wrote that
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I seriously doubt he wrote that
He didn't write that. What a crock of shit.
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The idea of him sitting down and putting the data into a graphing program. Pure fantasy.
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It says under author information who put the graphs together.
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It says under author information who put the graphs together.
You are very gullible if you believe he wrote that.
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You are very gullible if you believe he wrote that.
Everybody has research assistants and they probably did most of the work. But if you've ever heard him speak on health care reform you'd know he's capable of doing something like this.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/200...ssor-in-chief/
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Everybody has research assistants and they probably did most of the work. But if you've ever heard him speak on health care reform you'd know he's capable of doing something like this.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/200...ssor-in-chief/
It isn't a very profound paper, but basically a speech which says, "hey, the PPAFA increased the number of insureds." Most of us could write it, if we had research assistants to compile a few numbers and prepare a few graphs.

The paper ignores the other proposed "objectives" of the PPAFA, basically to reduce costs and to promote quality. Most research shows it hasn't achieved that. IOW, the paper is garbage, IMHO. He also doesn't address some of the counting issues, such as counting people, who lost insurance due to the Act as being newly insured when they had insurance previously that was canceled because of the Act.
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It isn't a very profound paper, but basically a speech which says, "hey, the PPAFA increased the number of insureds." Most of us could write it, if we had research assistants to compile a few numbers and prepare a few graphs.

The paper ignores the other proposed "objectives" of the PPAFA, basically to reduce costs and to promote quality. Most research shows it hasn't achieved that. IOW, the paper is garbage, IMHO. He also doesn't address some of the counting issues, such as counting people, who lost insurance due to the Act as being newly insured when they had insurance previously that was canceled because of the Act.
Paper showed the proportion of people uninsured has been reduced drastically, on balance.

It did show the ACA reduced costs.

I don't think the paper itself is that impressive, just cool, as other than Woodrow Wilson I don't know of any president who published something like this.
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Paper showed the proportion of people uninsured has been reduced drastically, on balance.

It did show the ACA reduced costs.

I don't think the paper itself is that impressive, just cool, as other than Woodrow Wilson I don't know of any president who published something like this.
It showed "on balance," without correcting for those counting problems. I am aware of better evidence that shows there is no correlation between the Act and cost reductions. Reductions are tied to the economy, not to the Act.

Again, it appears he had some research assistant basically write it and he put his name to it, to get it published. A crappy, useless paper gets published because the President affixes his name to it.
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