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il Padrino Ute · 06-28-2007, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Utah is a poor state. It didn't sink in until years after I moved away from Salt Lake and took my second wife there, the first time she'd been there. Such experiences give you new eyes. Much of it is pretty oppressive and run down and quite hopeless, frankly, if not utterly banal.

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I challenge you to name any part of Salt Lake that comes close to the thriving neighborhood known as Rainier Valley.

Mormon Red Death · 06-28-2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

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I challenge you to name any part of Salt Lake that comes close to the thriving neighborhood known as Rainier Valley.

I agree.... Salt Lake is so far above Detroit... and most of the midwest...

Archaea · 06-28-2007, 04:45 PM

Seattle is obviously trolling on this thread. SLC is better than almost any older Midwestern town, St. Louis, Kansas City, Wichita, Detroit, Madison, many parts of Ohio, and many parts of Los Angeles.

Seattle's trolling is so obvious on this one; either that, or His Bob Dole Blue Wonder hasn't kicked in as some have suggested. Remember Seattle, if it last longer than four hours, call a doctor.

SeattleUte · 06-28-2007, 05:12 PM

Remember bankruptcy requires someone who had it enough together at one time to get credit and is responsible enough to address his debts by legal process at the very least. Some places are too desolate for many bankruptcies to occur. I bet the bankruptcy rate in Somalia is pretty low.

FMCoug · 06-28-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

Except for the study says the average is the same for the non "I want to live in Zion" folks.

Of course it does. Regardless of what some non-member conspiracy theorists might think, the salaries are the same for member and non-member alike. So you could say the non-members are casualties of the "I want to live in Zion" folks. It's Economics 101. Employers pay what the market will bear. Because of heritage, large extended families, etc. many people choose to stay in Utah and work for much less than they could make elsewhere. And I mean elsewhere in terms of places where the cost of living is the same or less, not the coasts.

I do find it intersting however, how many young families there are in my ward and others around here that are from Utah. I wonder what % of Utah native BYU grads stay in the state after graduation. I bet it's a lot lower than it used to be.

And those are the smart ones. The others are among the ones filing bankruptcy IMO.

creekster · 06-28-2007, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Remember bankruptcy requires someone who had it enough together at one time to get credit and is responsible enough to address his debts by legal process at the very least. Some places are too desolate for many bankruptcies to occur. I bet the bankruptcy rate in Somalia is pretty low.

Yes, but is Somalia simply banal?

SeattleUte · 06-28-2007, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueK

Probably when you last lived there. Not anymore. Utah is currently 18 in median HH income according to the Census Bureau. That said, I'd still rather live in Texas.

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet...US-30&-_sse=on

Looks fishy. Is the LDS Church behind this study?

BlueK · 06-28-2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Looks fishy. Is the LDS Church behind this study?

I hope you're trolling.

BYU71 · 06-28-2007, 07:39 PM

to church membership, which I am not inagreement with, I would like to know the following. If you are filing for bankruptcy and having your assets protected, are you allowed to pay tithing.

I would accept someones gambling winnings as tithing before I would money kept from filing bankruptcy. Of course I don't make the rules.

jay santos · 06-28-2007, 07:47 PM

Here are some paths to explore. Might be more useful than "I drove through Salt Lake and I've never seen such a poor, pathetic, hopeless, culturally deprived city". Btw, I heard this a lot from out-of-towners visiting for the Olympics. No smiley just for you SU.

Medical costs #1 reason for bankruptcy

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...tcy_study.html

Utah #40 in % of children with health insurance

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/stat...?doc_id=495884

06-28-2007, 04:45 PM	#33
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Seattle is obviously trolling on this thread. SLC is better than almost any older Midwestern town, St. Louis, Kansas City, Wichita, Detroit, Madison, many parts of Ohio, and many parts of Los Angeles. Seattle's trolling is so obvious on this one; either that, or His Bob Dole Blue Wonder hasn't kicked in as some have suggested. Remember Seattle, if it last longer than four hours, call a doctor. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

06-28-2007, 05:12 PM	#34
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	Remember bankruptcy requires someone who had it enough together at one time to get credit and is responsible enough to address his debts by legal process at the very least. Some places are too desolate for many bankruptcies to occur. I bet the bankruptcy rate in Somalia is pretty low. __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster

06-28-2007, 07:39 PM	#39
BYU71 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,084	Since there are some trying to tie this to church membership, which I am not inagreement with, I would like to know the following. If you are filing for bankruptcy and having your assets protected, are you allowed to pay tithing. I would accept someones gambling winnings as tithing before I would money kept from filing bankruptcy. Of course I don't make the rules.

06-28-2007, 07:47 PM	#40
jay santos Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,177	Here are some paths to explore. Might be more useful than "I drove through Salt Lake and I've never seen such a poor, pathetic, hopeless, culturally deprived city". Btw, I heard this a lot from out-of-towners visiting for the Olympics. No smiley just for you SU. Medical costs #1 reason for bankruptcy http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...tcy_study.html Utah #40 in % of children with health insurance http://www.commonwealthfund.org/stat...?doc_id=495884