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Old 06-20-2007, 05:29 PM   #41
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I actually reject another person being a harm to my spirit. I am the guardian of my spirit and nobody harms lest I allow it.

It does sound ridiculous to say another person harms my spirit as a general statement. Now, in a husband and wife situation, where one is bound, it might be different. Once one is within one's spirit through the bonds of marriage, one can harm the spirit, but the spouse still allowed it.

No, I don't believe the words destroy another's spirit. Poppycock I say. Unless it is also accompanied by physical action such as incarceration and/or torture.
so it would happen but it needs your allowance? and what would make your spirit allows to accept the harm ?or see the harm as a inspiration?
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:29 PM   #42
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I have heard those "stories" but I don't believe them to be authentic representations of God's will, but men's efforts to cover up their crimes.
they are ingrained in the Judeo-Christian tradition though.
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:33 PM   #43
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they are ingrained in the Judeo-Christian tradition though.
well ,since there were mainly natural disasters so it would be pretty easy to blame God
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:37 PM   #44
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I think that most muslims get a trial run during the engagement, though. Then they can always back out of the marriage if they're unimpressed.
yeah ,thats true .there is always a chance not to go forward and get married if you couldnot find the desirable features in your fiance.
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:47 PM   #45
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:47 PM   #46
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:51 PM   #47
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no one ough to be allowed to take barbara's crown .she is the eternal queen of this site ,me thinks
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:59 PM   #48
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Mindfulcoug, I don't think I made my question clear.

I don't mean to be vulgar or insulting. I'm just curious.

Is a man allowed to see his wife naked before they get married, in order to determine if she is attractive to him?
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Mindfulcoug, I don't think I made my question clear.

I don't mean to be vulgar or insulting. I'm just curious.

Is a man allowed to see his wife naked before they get married, in order to determine if she is attractive to him?
YES. in shia we have a law that it allows you to watch the woman body if you are almost sure about getting marry to her and you have a serious concern for what her body would look like.
worthy adding thing is...the girl would be showing her body and her charm in different meetings to the females memeber of the guy family though.so they are free to be critical if they find something undesirable and report directly to the guy .so he could investigate the case himself through a request if necessary .ofcourse it does need to get the girl permission and wish!
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So if the female relatives say there is something wrong when seeing her naked, the groom can, with permission, inspect her while naked?

Interesting.

I would say most Americans go beyond inspection of fruit, and actually partake before marriage.

Mormons, we try to neither inspect nor partake. But generally with swimsuits and such, we generally have a pretty good idea anyway.
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