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Old 04-02-2007, 06:40 PM   #11
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Wah-schmah. I'd take a revoked temple recommend and Bishop's court over an unwanted pregnancy any day.

Priesthood holders are supposed to protect women--that's a part of the job. As women, we are counseled to sustain you and look to you for leadership and guidance. With that authority comes greater responsibility. Certainly, I have my own issues with the traditional Priesthood/RS roles in our church, but when the men have all the power and they screw up, of course they are going to take more heat.

Essentially, because women can get pregnant and men can't, women will always pay the greatest price for sexual indiscretion. Perhaps the church is just making an attempt to even the score.
What if the female can't get pregnant, because the man is fixed?

I don't understand the disparate treatment, but that's how it is, and we shall deal with it.
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Wah-schmah. I'd take a revoked temple recommend and Bishop's court over an unwanted pregnancy any day.

Priesthood holders are supposed to protect women--that's a part of the job. As women, we are counseled to sustain you and look to you for leadership and guidance. With that authority comes greater responsibility. Certainly, I have my own issues with the traditional Priesthood/RS roles in our church, but when the men have all the power and they screw up, of course they are going to take more heat.

Essentially, because women can get pregnant and men can't, women will always pay the greatest price for sexual indiscretion. Perhaps the church is just making an attempt to even the score.
I agree, consequences for the mans actions should be more severe. However, this is a societal problem much more than an 'in the church' problem.
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I agree, consequences for the mans actions should be more severe. However, this is a societal problem much more than a 'in the church' problem.
Why?

The treatment should be equal, if we believe in equal treatment under the law. I don't see a rational basis for disaparate legal treatment.
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The treatment should be equal, if we believe in equal treatment under the law. I don't see a rational basis for disaparate legal treatment.
With authority comes greater responsability and more severe consequences. Unrighteous dominion cannot be tolerated in the least degree.
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Wah-schmah. I'd take a revoked temple recommend and Bishop's court over an unwanted pregnancy any day.

Priesthood holders are supposed to protect women--that's a part of the job. As women, we are counseled to sustain you and look to you for leadership and guidance. With that authority comes greater responsibility. Certainly, I have my own issues with the traditional Priesthood/RS roles in our church, but when the men have all the power and they screw up, of course they are going to take more heat.

Essentially, because women can get pregnant and men can't, women will always pay the greatest price for sexual indiscretion. Perhaps the church is just making an attempt to even the score.
Interesting view. I don't know that I completely agree, but you make a compelling argument.
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The treatment should be equal, if we believe in equal treatment under the law. I don't see a rational basis for disaparate legal treatment.
But the thing is, there is not equal treatment between men and women in the church. Women have influence, but no authority in the church. As long as that is so, the consequences are going to be different for the same wrong doing.
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With authority comes greater responsability and more severe consequences. Unrighteous dominion cannot be tolerated in the least degree.
Give me a break, friend. In a dating relationship, the male and female are not on equal ground--- she has total control over what happens and you're completely at her mercy.

I do not know "women" who honor the priesthood in giving deference to whatever the man wants. Perhaps some backwoods women do in Utah or Idaho, but I doubt that. No, women lack the final stamp of approval but general call the shots.

Each has dominion over one's own body. (Now I'm speaking of rape but consensual actions).
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But the thing is, there is not equal treatment between men and women in the church. Women have influence, but no authority in the church. As long as that is so, the consequences are going to be different for the same wrong doing.
They do have authority ... simply because it is a different authority does not mean it is less authority.
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They do have authority ... simply because it is a different authority does not mean it is less authority.
What authority is that? We get to decide what to do for Sharing Time? We plan the ward potluck? We are help mates. We have the supporting role. I'm not complaining. That's just how it is.
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They do have authority ... simply because it is a different authority does not mean it is less authority.
This sounds like an argument about who gets to sign the checks when both parties also have credit cards.
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