09-23-2008, 12:14 AM | #11 |
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Bah. Come on, SU. Did you even read the end of the piece? Japan and Germany aren't taking any action because 1) They've already pumped billions into their banks over the summer and 2) they can't do anything.
Once again the Anglo-American allies have to clean up after the party that everyone attended but no one stayed around to put away the chairs. Even if we're wrong (the Fed and Treasury) you don't want to be seen rooting for the EU, sorry.
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09-23-2008, 12:35 AM | #12 |
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that's not the same thing as avoiding materialism. But then again, when they almost all have second homes, what exactly is it that they are going to say?
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There's a reason ad hominem arguments are the first to be thrown out. They're just too easy. So I won't even ask you to refer me to the sources by which you ascertained that almost all General Authorities have second homes-- though I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that it doesn't exist-- since the argument which your made-up evidence bolsters is irrelevant to the point at hand anyway.
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http://www.salamandersociety.com/foyer/gamap/ I can only guess as to why they don't speak out very much against materialism. Getting into debt and materialism are different, though often related, things. |
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Second, some of them have owned those homes for several decades, well before they became real estate gems, and often before they became general authorities. Third, this line of argument, along with this website, is despicable.
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Personally, I think materialism is a greater spiritual threat than civil unions and gay marriages. But I am a no one, and my opinion matters for little. And if I say anything, it is "despicable." Materialism is a very small topic in today's church. It is a dominating theme in the BoM. Either I am deaf, or I have exquisite hearing. I'm not sure which. |
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I had heard that it was common for the apostles to have second homes in Utah. I can't remember the source. I mean, is this a shock to anyone if it is true? This is a church where it is a running joke that if you are wealthy you will eventually be a bishop or a stake president. That tells you something. |
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09-23-2008, 01:38 AM | #19 |
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Ann Eliza Young has a horrific tale of marriage to Brigham Young and living in his mansion. Don't the brethren realize that Lehi dwelt in a mere tent?
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09-23-2008, 02:33 AM | #20 | |
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There are better ways to argue that materialism is a problem, a premise with which I happen to agree. Don't go dragging them through the mud to do it.
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