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Old 10-30-2008, 01:48 AM   #1
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that Senator Obama's immediate and not so distant relatives live in poverty and he apparantly does nothing about it. Am I wrong to think that this is a poor reflection on his character?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5042571.ece
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Old 10-30-2008, 01:49 AM   #2
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that Senator Obama's immediate and not so distant relatives live in poverty and he apparantly does nothing about it. Am I wrong to think that this is a poor reflection on his character?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5042571.ece
he's going to tax you and me to fix it. just you wait, like any good socialist, he's going to have his kingdom pay for his relatives.
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Old 10-30-2008, 01:56 AM   #3
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that Senator Obama's immediate and not so distant relatives live in poverty and he apparantly does nothing about it. Am I wrong to think that this is a poor reflection on his character?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5042571.ece
I think your mistake is expecting any politician to have much character.
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Old 10-30-2008, 02:00 AM   #4
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he's going to tax you and me to fix it. just you wait, like any good socialist, he's going to have his kingdom pay for his relatives.
I wish I were making enough scratch to be threatened with a Barack Obama tax hike, but that's beside the point. But if you had a brother in Kenya living in a hut and an immigrant aunt living in a Boston slum, wouldn't you help them out?
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I wish I were making enough scratch to be threatened with a Barack Obama tax hike,
Seriously! I literally just got off the phone with my mom a sec ago. She's desperately trying to talk me out of voting Obama (I'm not sure she understands how the electoral system works or that we live in the reddest state outside of Utah). She goes, "but honey, he's going to raise your taxes!!" I said, "I wish!"
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I think your mistake is expecting any politician to have much character.
This may sound cheesy, but I think it's important not to get too jaded when looking at our elected officials. A lot of them have gone through extreme adversity and have come out of it as very good and decent people, even though they have their obvious flaws. I love some of their stories. Orrin Hatch grew up dirt poor and lived in a refurbed chicken coop while attending law school. Senators Inouye and Dole both gave up partial use of their bodies in the service of our country. Chuck Hagel went through hell in Vietnam and sacrificed family relationships for his country. Even Ted Kennedy has had to deal with the assasination of two brothers in the worlds spotlight. The list goes on. They are people just like us who have lived through difficult circumstances through which their character has been molded.

Though there are certainly slimeballs, I think there are a few statesmen.
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that Senator Obama's immediate and not so distant relatives live in poverty and he apparantly does nothing about it. Am I wrong to think that this is a poor reflection on his character?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5042571.ece
And Biden giving an average of $369 per year to charity according to his tax returns? They both expect government to address problems, take no personal responsibility to do anything.
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Though there are certainly slimeballs, I think there are a few statesmen.
I'm certain there are, but I consider those the exception.

I consider both Obama and McCain to be regular old politicians. Not particularly better or worse than average. Just a couple of guys who play the game and do it pretty well.
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And Biden giving an average of $369 per year to charity according to his tax returns? They both expect government to address problems, take no personal responsibility to do anything.
Yeah, that was pretty shocking. You'd think after getting their panties in a twist over Palin's $150K, the Obamaphiles would lower their noses enough to scoff at that a little.
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Yeah, that was pretty shocking. You'd think after getting their panties in a twist over Palin's $150K, the Obamaphiles would lower their noses enough to scoff at that a little.
unrelated. Palin is supposed to represent NASCAR Americans. That's her whole purpose. That was what made the $150k such a misstep by the RNC.

Biden donating $300 dollars a year just indicates that he's stingy. I don't know that he ever claimed to be otherwise.
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