Suicide and homosexuality

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Where did you read this? Do you have a link?



What a horrible statement. It boggles my mind that a man this heartless become an apostle.

The quote was in the first edition. Anyone know if it was changed in subsequent editions?

[ERCougar]

Originally Posted by Tex

I'm sure it was before he got to Stage IV.

The irony of these little quips shines to anyone who's read the book. Keep at it. I'm enjoying it, sort of.

[ERCougar]

Originally Posted by Tex

The quote was in the first edition. Anyone know if it was changed in subsequent editions?

I'm sure it was changed. I'm not using this to discredit the church. In fact, I'm using to point out the progress of the church in dealing with this matter--something I'm proud of. I do wonder how anyone comes to the point of saying something like this, but the 50s were a different time, I guess. I have no idea.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by ERCougar

The irony of these little quips shines to anyone who's read the book. Keep at it. I'm enjoying it, sort of.

Pigs enjoy the mud.

[ERCougar]

Originally Posted by Tex

Pigs enjoy the mud.

Why I added the "sort of". I always feel dirtier after talking with you.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by ERCougar

Wonder how successful BRM's comment was in that respect...

No kidding. I am sure it stopped zero suicides and heaped massive amounts of guilt and heartache on grieving survivors.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by ERCougar

Why I added the "sort of". I always feel dirtier after talking with you.

We were doing fine until you and Swarthout let your inner pricks loose.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by PaloAltoCougar

BRM had many fine qualities, but sensitivity was not his long suit. I am aware that GAs still talk about a stake conference visit by the McConkies, during which his wife passed out at the pulpit and collapsed to the floor. While others reacted quickly, rushing to her side, Elder McConkie literally stepped over his wife without pausing to check things out, assured the congregation along the lines of "Don't worry, she'll be fine," and immediately launched into his talk while others pulled his wife off of the podium. I suppose that says as much about Sister McConkie as it does about him; if I performed similarly, that talk would be my last.

Stories like this and the suicide quote makes me wonder if BRM had a form of high-functioning autism. Photographic memory, etc. but limited capacity for nuance or processing human emotion or compassion.

[ERCougar]

Originally Posted by Tex

We were doing fine until you and Swarthout let your inner pricks loose.

http://cougarguard.com/forum/showpos...&postcount=240

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Stories like this and the suicide quote makes me wonder if BRM had a form of high-functioning autism. Photographic memory, etc. but limited capacity for nuance or processing human emotion or compassion.

Perhaps Asperger Syndrome?

While I can't deny that there were many things about BRM that made it tough to admire him, I will always prefer to remember the talk he gave in the last General Conference before he passed away. It left no doubt in my mind that he truly loved the Lord and the Gospel.