Oil in America

[BlueHair]

Originally Posted by creekster

Not really, beacseu the illegals are here, so there has been no shortage.

You're right, because the illegals are the only people doing any real labor.

[RC Vikings]

Originally Posted by Tex

Late to the game, RC. I've mentioned my time at Exxon several times before today.

I don't read much of your stuff.

[scottie]

Originally Posted by RC Vikings

I don't read much of your stuff.

Don't feel bad RC, I just did a keyword search for "Exxon" by username "Tex" which only returned one result:

http://cougarguard.com/forum/showthr...xon#post108240

[Tex]

Originally Posted by scottie

Don't feel bad RC, I just did a keyword search for "Exxon" by username "Tex" which only returned one result:

http://cougarguard.com/forum/showthr...xon#post108240

Hmm, maybe it wasn't "several" but I know I've mentioned in the past on Cougarboard as well. Just to save you the trouble, a search there didn't turn it up but I don't know how far their search goes back.

Silly that we are even doing this exercise. Just be happy with my anonymity, eh?

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Tex

Hmm, maybe it wasn't "several" but I know I've mentioned in the past on Cougarboard as well. Just to save you the trouble, a search there didn't turn it up but I don't know how far their search goes back.

Silly that we are even doing this exercise. Just be happy with my anonymity, eh?

the search goes back to 2002.

and no I don't remember you mentioning you worked for exxon either.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

the search goes back to 2002.

and no I don't remember you mentioning you worked for exxon either.

Perhaps you should read closer.

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by Tex

Estimates:

ANWR: between 600 million and 10 billion barrels
Florida coast: potentially 500 billion barrels, north Cuba Basin may contain 4.6 billion barrels alone
Montana Bakken: between 4 and 400 billion barrels

Average annual US oil imports: 4 billion / year

This doesn't take into accounts costs of sinking wells, extraction, time to market, and the possibility that today's technology cannot extract some portion of it. But when I worked for Exxon years ago, one of the things they told us during initial orientation was that more oil deposits are discovered each year than the US produces. Not all of them are immediately extractable, but they are located and marked for future technology.

Don't tell me America can't be "oil independent" if the environmentalist wackos would just get out of the way.

The whole oil independence thing is irrelevant. The world price and market for oil couldn't care less where our oil was drilled. But it makes for good political rhetoric. If we don't buy our oil from the middle east, (which for the most part we don't anyway) Europeans or Chinese, or someone else will. The middle east will still be important as long as someone is buying from them, and opec will still have a huge impact on the world price for oil as long as there is demand. The only way to lessen the importance of the middle east is for the overall demand for oil to go down. Where it comes from doesn't matter.

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Which is why we need to completely overhaul our legal immigration process: to allow more people to quickly and legally immigrate to this country to fill the labor shortage.

You're an anti american nut for believing that!

signed, the far right.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by BlueK

You're an anti american nut for believing that!

signed, the far right.

Is the far right really against increasing legal immigration quotas or improving the legal immigration process? I'm not familiar with those arguments.

[Ma'ake]

Originally Posted by BlueK

The whole oil independence thing is irrelevant. The world price and market for oil couldn't care less where our oil was drilled. But it makes for good political rhetoric. If we don't buy our oil from the middle east, (which for the most part we don't anyway) Europeans or Chinese, or someone else will. The middle east will still be important as long as someone is buying from them and opec will still have a huge impact on the world price for oil as long as there is demand. The only way to lessen the importance of the middle east is for the overall demand for oil to go down. Where it comes from doesn't matter.

This is exactly right. *The* imperative is to reduce our appetite for cheap oil.

As for point argued before that we should let the market reduce our consumption, that's all good, but we've been here before, and we went right back to gas-guzzling hogs as soon as the price of gas subsided. Some things the market doesn't do well, and national defense policy, immigration policy & energy policy are three areas we shouldn't let the market decide where we go as a nation.

(Weren't conservatives angry when Carter created the Dept of Energy?)