2 in 10 WV voters said race was an important factor

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

The founders of St. George (UT I presume you mean) weren't racist? News to me.

Does that have any direct bearing on the current racial attitudes of St. George?

[Tavern Knight]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

The founders of St. George (UT I presume you mean) weren't racist? News to me.

I don't doubt that's lots of things that are common knowledge to the rest of us would come as news to you. Care to share your "evidence" that they were? And then you can explain how that tied into the area being called Dixie?

The point is, moron, that "Dixie" has nothing to do with racism. Although, I'm used to hearing that kind of argument from people whose mind can only grasp very generalized, oversimplified notions and who are forced to apply these ignorant, broad-brushed ideas to everything they come in contact with.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Does that have any direct bearing on the current racial attitudes of St. George?

Yes, I'm sure that as a result there's still some racism in St. George.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Tavern Knight

I don't doubt that's lots of things that are common knowledge to the rest of us would come as news to you. Care to share your "evidence" that they were? And then you can explain how that tied into the area being called Dixie?

The point is, moron, that "Dixie" has nothing to do with racism. Although, I'm used to hearing that kind of argument from people whose mind can only grasp very generalized, oversimplified notions and who are forced to apply these ignorant, broad-brushed ideas to everything they come in contact with.

Some evidence:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacks_...ter-day_Saints

[Tavern Knight]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Yes, I am saying that if race was a very important factor in your decision, then you are a racist.

BYU71, care to opine?

MW, again applying subtle changes to the argument in order to strengthen his position 'cause he can't win on the merits of the original argument. The article doesn't say "very important" factor, it just says "important factor". You'll argue that this difference isn't significant, but then why did you change the wording?

Still waiting to hear back about other possible reasons why race could be a factor and your opinion there on.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Yes, I'm sure that as a result there's still some racism in St. George.

Does any of that place St. George in some upper stratus of most racist communities?

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by Tavern Knight

MW, again applying subtle changes to the argument in order to strengthen his position 'cause he can't win on the merits of the original argument. The article doesn't say "very important" factor, it just says "important factor". You'll argue that this difference isn't significant, but then why did you change the wording?

Still waiting to hear back about other possible reasons why race could be a factor and your opinion there on.

You noticed that Mike didn't even bother responding to my post.

[FMCoug]

I'd guess pretty high. I find it much more likely that blacks voted FOR Obama because of race than whites voting AGAINST because of race.

But racist blacks are fine ... it's the evil whitey we have to watch out for.

Racism sucks ... in all its forms.

[Tavern Knight]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Some evidence:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacks_...ter-day_Saints

Oh, my apologies. I thought you were somebody who could construct a reasoned argument and responded accordingly. I see now that you are not.

[Tavern Knight]

Originally Posted by FMCoug

I'd guess pretty high. I find it much more likely that blacks voted FOR Obama because of race than whites voting AGAINST because of race.

But racist blacks are fine ... it's the evil whitey we have to watch out for.

Racism sucks ... in all its forms.

Actually, if I read it right, the article says that 8 out of 10 people who indicated race was an important factor, voted for Billary.

One point where I WILL agree with MW, though, is that I wouldn't lend any credence to the # 2 out of 10. I think there were lots of people for whom race was an important factor who didn't admit to it. That's a very unscientific poll. And I will agree with FM that most of those who didn't admit it were probably in the Obama camp, although I don't really know. Perhaps there are more racists than I'd like to believe.