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MikeWaters · 11-27-2013, 04:30 AM

1. Nate Austin is the our new "peanut brain." Dumb as a rock.

2. We need to face facts. Tyler Haws is a defensive liability. He is too small to be effective at the 3 on D. And he can't play shooting guard because he doesn't have the handle or athleticism. It scares me every time he puts in the ball on the floor.

3. Mika--nice job. I wish he could avoid some of these fouls. Get out of the way!!! Sad we couldn't feed him in the post more (partly because he was on the bench for so long).

4. Anson Winder, poor showing again. I expect him to fall down the roster.

5. Worthington. I don't think I need to say a thing. He's a glorified rec player.

6. Carlino. We saw the good and bad. Tough shot attempts in the 2nd half, none fell. Hot in the first half. Wichita State made the adjustment.

7. Collinsworth. Still showing his youth and inexperience. Unfortunately hasn't developed any shooting touch since he was a freshman. You need to make your free throws!!! Prone to the dumb turnover. On the other hand, without him we are cooked. He has the size we need.

8. Bartley. I liked what I saw. His athleticism and IQ are a bonus and he will get more time as the year goes by.

9. Sharp. Nice to see him get on the floor. I'm still puzzled why Rose isn't giving him at least a few minutes. Hell, he may be a good change of pace as an oversized defensive 3 in the zone defense.

BYU's achilles heel remains our lack of talent in the frontcourt outside of Mika. Nate Austin makes me cry out of embarrassment, and Worthington makes me throw up in my mouth. They try hard but both suck.

ChinoCoug · 11-27-2013, 01:08 PM

Austin grabs a ton of boards, so not a complete waste. Other than that, sounds about right.

MikeWaters · 11-27-2013, 02:46 PM

Tyler Haws needs to be more selective in his shot taking. He's getting his jumpshot blocked at a ridiculous rate, and it's already cost us one game, arguably both games we have lost.

He's also taking high degree of difficulty shots and doing so very ineffectively. I can see why Carlino turned him down. Haws is playing selfishly and poorly.

MikeWaters · 11-27-2013, 03:43 PM

Rose has been going with a 4 guard lineup. If you are 6'11" and playing with 4 guards, yes, you should be able to get double digit rebounds.

Austin is trying hard, but he's not always playing very smart. Stupid fouls being a huge problem.

MikeWaters · 11-27-2013, 05:06 PM

This team really misses having an athletic defender and rebounder (as well as all purpose guy) like Abuou. He played within his game.

One thing we forget about Jimmer's senior season is all the defensive talent we had around him compared to what we have now.

ChinoCoug · 11-27-2013, 11:40 PM

Exactly, if Mika won't pull'em down (and he hasn't) we need someone who will, and Austin has been doing it.

11-27-2013, 04:30 AM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	vs. Wichita State 1. Nate Austin is the our new "peanut brain." Dumb as a rock. 2. We need to face facts. Tyler Haws is a defensive liability. He is too small to be effective at the 3 on D. And he can't play shooting guard because he doesn't have the handle or athleticism. It scares me every time he puts in the ball on the floor. 3. Mika--nice job. I wish he could avoid some of these fouls. Get out of the way!!! Sad we couldn't feed him in the post more (partly because he was on the bench for so long). 4. Anson Winder, poor showing again. I expect him to fall down the roster. 5. Worthington. I don't think I need to say a thing. He's a glorified rec player. 6. Carlino. We saw the good and bad. Tough shot attempts in the 2nd half, none fell. Hot in the first half. Wichita State made the adjustment. 7. Collinsworth. Still showing his youth and inexperience. Unfortunately hasn't developed any shooting touch since he was a freshman. You need to make your free throws!!! Prone to the dumb turnover. On the other hand, without him we are cooked. He has the size we need. 8. Bartley. I liked what I saw. His athleticism and IQ are a bonus and he will get more time as the year goes by. 9. Sharp. Nice to see him get on the floor. I'm still puzzled why Rose isn't giving him at least a few minutes. Hell, he may be a good change of pace as an oversized defensive 3 in the zone defense. BYU's achilles heel remains our lack of talent in the frontcourt outside of Mika. Nate Austin makes me cry out of embarrassment, and Worthington makes me throw up in my mouth. They try hard but both suck.

11-27-2013, 01:08 PM	#2
ChinoCoug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NOVA Posts: 3,005	Austin grabs a ton of boards, so not a complete waste. Other than that, sounds about right. __________________ 太初有道

11-27-2013, 11:40 PM	#6
ChinoCoug Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NOVA Posts: 3,005	Exactly, if Mika won't pull'em down (and he hasn't) we need someone who will, and Austin has been doing it. __________________ 太初有道

11-27-2013, 02:46 PM	#3
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Tyler Haws needs to be more selective in his shot taking. He's getting his jumpshot blocked at a ridiculous rate, and it's already cost us one game, arguably both games we have lost. He's also taking high degree of difficulty shots and doing so very ineffectively. I can see why Carlino turned him down. Haws is playing selfishly and poorly.

11-27-2013, 03:43 PM	#4
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Rose has been going with a 4 guard lineup. If you are 6'11" and playing with 4 guards, yes, you should be able to get double digit rebounds. Austin is trying hard, but he's not always playing very smart. Stupid fouls being a huge problem.

11-27-2013, 05:06 PM	#5
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	This team really misses having an athletic defender and rebounder (as well as all purpose guy) like Abuou. He played within his game. One thing we forget about Jimmer's senior season is all the defensive talent we had around him compared to what we have now.