Obamaniacs, are you disturbed?

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

The sex ed for kindergartners was a total lie.

Link? And no, pro-Obama websites don't count.

[exUte]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

It's an illusion that either candidate really controls how their campaign is run.

with politicians. "Who me? I didn't say or approve that!" Right. They allow their supporters sling this stuff from both sides while publicly disavowing their approvement.

[exUte]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

You know, the McCain story is an interesting one. Last April he said that he promised to run a "respectful" campaign, but that gee-whiz you never know what those pesky 527s will come up with. That very month the pro-McCain 527s started airing ads about Obama's association with Wright. Since then there have been a non-stop string of "independent" ads slamming Obama, most of them misrepresentations or near-fabrications.

The negative ad campaigns have been enormously successful for McCain. Obama can either take the higher ground and, unlike McCain, stay true to his word to keep a "respectful," substance-based discourse, and subsequently watch McCain run away with the election. Or, alternately, he can try to stay competitive and start throwing his own ads out there. It seems he's decided to go with the latter, having given permission for pro-Obama 527s to form for the first time last week.

Moveon.org?

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Link? And no, pro-Obama websites don't count.

You can read the entire speech, but the text is of course archived on a "pro-Obama" website.

Obama was outlining the importance of teaching Kindergartners stranger-danger techniques to avoid sexual exploitation. McCain calls this "sex ed for kindergartners."

[Flystripper]

Originally Posted by exUte

with politicians. "Who me? I didn't say or approve that!" Right. They allow their supporters sling this stuff from both sides while publicly disavowing their approvement.

I'm a city slicker I ain't no townie
Right now I wish I had another hash brownie

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by exUte

Moveon.org?

a 501c4, subject to regulation by the FEC. 527s are widely criticized because they are free from regulation and thus lend themselves to the nastiest of political rhetoric.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

You can read the entire speech, but the text is of course archived on a "pro-Obama" website.

Obama was outlining the importance of teaching Kindergartners stranger-danger techniques to avoid sexual exploitation. McCain calls this "sex ed for kindergartners."

That's certainly the Obama line. The truth is, the bill he supported didn't draw such distinct lines and the door was left open for such education to occur.

McCain's ad is definitely a stretch, and certainly not in the spirit Obama claims to have had in choosing to support it. But it's not an outright lie, any more than implying that McCain "refused" to define honor because he is dishonorable. Welcome to American politics, Obamoonies.

Obama (with your help) put himself on this pedestal. No one should be surprised to find him tumbling off it face first.

[il Padrino Ute]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

It was a lie, and a blatant one at that.

Again Cali, please provide a link. And not something from Obama's website.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by Tex

the door was left open for such education to occur.

And what else do you suspect they were going to teach kindergartners?
"G is for g-spot"?

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

A "stretch?" Is that what we are calling it these days? It was a lie, and a blatant one at that.

Saying it doesn't make it so. Here's Jim Geraghty on the particulars.

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

Much like Palin's continued statements that she opposed the bridge to nowhere are complete fabrications.

She did oppose it, and killed it. If your side wants to run a Kerryesque "for it before she was against it" ad, be my guest. But the truth is, she did kill the project.