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Brian · 01-17-2007, 08:18 PM

odd question, but google isn't finding me a quick answer.
tomorrow morning in seminary we are doing dc 67 and talking about mclellin and other's beef with JS about the DC language. i wanted to find a nice flowery example of 19th century rhetoric/sermon to contrast.
anyone happen to know where something might be?
i wanted to get a big top hat, dress coat and cane to complete the effect, but none such exists in my closet.

Sleeping in EQ · 01-17-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian

odd question, but google isn't finding me a quick answer.
tomorrow morning in seminary we are doing dc 67 and talking about mclellin and other's beef with JS about the DC language. i wanted to find a nice flowery example of 19th century rhetoric/sermon to contrast.
anyone happen to know where something might be?
i wanted to get a big top hat, dress coat and cane to complete the effect, but none such exists in my closet.

If you're referring to "purple prose" the British writer John Ruskin should furnish you with some fabulously overwrought passages.

BarbaraGordon · 01-17-2007, 08:47 PM

This is a GREAT librarian question. Totally out of my subject area, though.

EQ's right, it'll help if you have an author in mind so you can browse passages.

If you have a more specific question (Can you find me a sermon from so-and-so?) I can check the library databases for you.

If you're no longer a student, you'll have to head to a campus library to be able to use the history databases yourself.

hope that's helpful.

creekster · 01-17-2007, 08:58 PM

I recall the guy who spoke on the same program with Lincoln at the Gettysburg memorial gave a very ornate and turgid speech that might be up your alley here. This is not a joke, btw. There was another speaker and on the day his presentation was muchmore popular thanLincoln's, which was considered rahter shabby and plain (like most of my suits).

creekster · 01-17-2007, 09:00 PM

Here it is:

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Gettysburg_Oration

BarbaraGordon · 01-17-2007, 09:03 PM

You refer to Edward Everett? Good choice. I was thinking a couple of William Jennings Bryan texts might do, as well, but I'm not sure exactly what Brian has in mind.

edit: Oops. You beat me to it.
You're a mean librarian, Creekster.

Brian · 01-17-2007, 09:14 PM

Thanks all! I knew I would find exactly what I needed.
And my 14 sophomores will thank you as well.

That gave me plenty of information.
My intent was to show what some of the dissenters might have had in mind when they were moaning about the simple, boring text of the D&C. I'll read a few of those novel length sentences and contrast them to Smith's plain and simple text in the DC.

BigFatMeanie · 01-17-2007, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by creekster

Here it is:

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Gettysburg_Oration

Wow, that is one long speach. I can't believe the dude spoke for two hours! Imaging sitting out there for two hours listening to that guy drone - and I thought general conference was bad.

creekster · 01-17-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFatMeanie

Wow, that is one long speach. I can't believe the dude spoke for two hours! Imaging sitting out there for two hours listening to that guy drone - and I thought general conference was bad.

No kidding. And the thing is people liked it better than Lincoln's speech, which we now generally revere as a classic. Go figure.

MikeWaters · 01-17-2007, 11:03 PM

They were hard up for entertainment in those days. I imagine a good orator or story-teller was good times.

01-17-2007, 08:18 PM	#1
Brian Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Oak Ridge, TN Posts: 1,308	flowery language odd question, but google isn't finding me a quick answer. tomorrow morning in seminary we are doing dc 67 and talking about mclellin and other's beef with JS about the DC language. i wanted to find a nice flowery example of 19th century rhetoric/sermon to contrast. anyone happen to know where something might be? i wanted to get a big top hat, dress coat and cane to complete the effect, but none such exists in my closet. __________________ e^(i * pi) + 1 = 0 5 great numbers in one little equation.

01-17-2007, 08:58 PM	#4
creekster Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the far corner of my mind Posts: 8,711	I recall the guy who spoke on the same program with Lincoln at the Gettysburg memorial gave a very ornate and turgid speech that might be up your alley here. This is not a joke, btw. There was another speaker and on the day his presentation was muchmore popular thanLincoln's, which was considered rahter shabby and plain (like most of my suits). __________________ Sorry for th e tpyos.

01-17-2007, 09:00 PM	#5
creekster Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the far corner of my mind Posts: 8,711	Here it is: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Gettysburg_Oration __________________ Sorry for th e tpyos.

01-17-2007, 09:14 PM	#7
Brian Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Oak Ridge, TN Posts: 1,308	Thanks all! I knew I would find exactly what I needed. And my 14 sophomores will thank you as well. That gave me plenty of information. My intent was to show what some of the dissenters might have had in mind when they were moaning about the simple, boring text of the D&C. I'll read a few of those novel length sentences and contrast them to Smith's plain and simple text in the DC. __________________ e^(i * pi) + 1 = 0 5 great numbers in one little equation.

01-17-2007, 08:47 PM	#3
BarbaraGordon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gotham City Posts: 7,157	This is a GREAT librarian question. Totally out of my subject area, though. EQ's right, it'll help if you have an author in mind so you can browse passages. If you have a more specific question (Can you find me a sermon from so-and-so?) I can check the library databases for you. If you're no longer a student, you'll have to head to a campus library to be able to use the history databases yourself. hope that's helpful.

01-17-2007, 09:03 PM	#6
BarbaraGordon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gotham City Posts: 7,157	You refer to Edward Everett? Good choice. I was thinking a couple of William Jennings Bryan texts might do, as well, but I'm not sure exactly what Brian has in mind. edit: Oops. You beat me to it. You're a mean librarian, Creekster.

01-17-2007, 11:03 PM	#10
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	They were hard up for entertainment in those days. I imagine a good orator or story-teller was good times.