I'm annoyed by cycling and cyclists

[RC Vikings]

Originally Posted by Venkman

No offense to anyone here, I'm not annoyed by ALL cyclists. I used to have a bike and would ride fairly often so I don't really have anything against it per se, just that it's the "in" thing right now. I can't wait til the trend dies down and there are fewer a-holes riding four abreast taking up half the road. YOU GET THE OUTSIDE SIX INCHES PEOPLE, MOVE THE EFF OVER!!!

It's post like this that makes me appreciate riding in a small community. We get the occasional asshole but their are not enough bikers or cars for either one to get very annoyed with the other one. Good luck and be careful out there.

[bigpiney]

Originally Posted by Venkman

But cyclists need to exercise courtesy and obey the rules of the road as well.

I do agree with this part of it. If you want to be treated with respect, show some. If you want to be treated as a vehicle, then act like one and obey the rules.

I see cyclists running stop signs, using crosswalks, and even running traffic signals. I almost hit some guy that ran a stop sign and then he looked at me like it was my fault.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by bigpiney

I do agree with this part of it. If you want to be treated with respect, show some. If you want to be treated as a vehicle, then act like one and obey the rules.

I see cyclists running stop signs, using crosswalks, and even running traffic signals. I almost hit some guy that ran a stop sign and then he looked at me like it was my fault.

Nobody's advocating disobeying traffic rules, but the rules don't dictate that one must only occupy six inches on the road.

You should ride to the right as far as possible, and you may occupy the entire lane in a group. Motor vehicles, depending on the state must allow at least five to six feet to the side when passing a cyclist. Some motorists wrongly believe we must ride on the shoulder, which is untrue.

[The Borg]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Motor vehicles, depending on the state must allow at least five to six feet to the side when passing a cyclist. Some motorists wrongly believe we must ride on the shoulder, which is untrue.

How true this is. Last summer, a cyclist was run over and killed in our community because a vehicle was so close to the line of riders and unfortunately, in the line, wheels were crossed and the cyclist went down right in front of the car.

No room for maneuvering, and he was run over.

[Venkman]

Originally Posted by bigpiney

I do agree with this part of it. If you want to be treated with respect, show some. If you want to be treated as a vehicle, then act like one and obey the rules.

I see cyclists running stop signs, using crosswalks, and even running traffic signals. I almost hit some guy that ran a stop sign and then he looked at me like it was my fault.

That's pretty much what I'm saying, or at least trying to say. Admittedly I failed since my annoyance apparently = murderous intentions.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Archaea

You and your ilk are murderers cave culi.

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

People like Venkman, if they end up killing a cyclist, are able to "shake it off", and continue with their lives.

Say what you want about my perceived "hate", Arch, but I've never sunk to this level of rancor. But not to worry, UtahDan has assured me that here we "keep it respectful."

It is strangely reassuring to see you direct your venom at someone else besides me.

[Venkman]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Nobody's advocating disobeying traffic rules, but the rules don't dictate that one must only occupy six inches on the road.

You should ride to the right as far as possible, and you may occupy the entire lane in a group. Motor vehicles, depending on the state must allow at least five to six feet to the side when passing a cyclist. Some motorists wrongly believe we must ride on the shoulder, which is untrue.

I got the six inch rule from my scoutmaster when I was 13 and we were doing the cycling MB. So I guess I'm not surprised if that's not accurate.

I never buzz cyclists, I try to give them a wide berth. I'm talking about courtesy. When there's traffic and you're in a group with plenty of shoulder room, I find it discourteous to ride side by side and make motorists like me who don't want to get too close to cyclists wait for oncoming traffic to clear so I can cross over the center line and pass.

[Venkman]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

People like Venkman, if they end up killing a cyclist, are able to "shake it off", and continue with their lives.

LOL, you've got me pegged Waters: a stone cold killer.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Venkman

LOL, you've got me pegged Waters: a stone cold killer.

Your belief in the six inch rule scared the crap out of me.

[Venkman]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Your belief in the six inch rule scared the crap out of me.

I can see why it might. Still, my apparently incorrect belief doesn't mean I go around hugging the shoulder when I pass cyclists so's to "teach them a lesson". I thought I cleared that up early in the thread. But either you didn't catch that or you chose to ignore it and call me a killer anyway.