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MikeWaters · 03-16-2009, 02:11 PM

so much for seeding.

Archaea · 03-16-2009, 03:48 PM

UNLV beat Arizona by 30. What idiots favored Arizona over Utah, and Arizona lost in the first round of their conference tourney. Now, watch the Utes make idiots of me, but I don't see the Utes losing against the Cats.

SeattleUte · 03-16-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

so much for seeding.

Dipshit, we all know Utah isn't 5 seed good. Utah's 5 seed is total high school election stuff. But it's cool to have that going for you. I've seen Arizona play live this year and I can see why the experts pick Arizona. They have a big guy who's total NBA material, and several othre studs. Arizona is like Georgetown this year, loaded with talent and underachieving in a tough environment.

What this means is Utah is virtual BCS. BYU, on the other hand, is like Utah State; outside the cliques that count. BYU has no cool points.

MikeWaters · 03-16-2009, 04:17 PM

I'm just saying that the upset here is if Utah beats Arizona.

I've not seen Utah play, nor Arizona, so I can't comment on their relative merits other than what the bookies say, and what the seeding says.

The seeding says Utah should win. The bookies say Az should win.

il Padrino Ute · 03-16-2009, 04:36 PM

I think it's pretty funny that Arizona is favored as well, especially because if there is one team that doesn't deserve to be in the tournament, it's Arizona. It tells me that the experts give the benefit of the doubt to the BCS conferences as a result of bias.

I believe the Utes are seeded higher than they should be. If I had done the seeding, I would have put Utah at a 7 or 8.

Archaea · 03-16-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

I think it's pretty funny that Arizona is favored as well, especially because if there is one team that doesn't deserve to be in the tournament, it's Arizona. It tells me that the experts give the benefit of the doubt to the BCS conferences as a result of bias.

I believe the Utes are seeded higher than they should be. If I had done the seeding, I would have put Utah at a 7 or 8.

I don't see how Arizona made the Tourney let alone is favored. Utah has to love that. They must have looked at the "potential" of the athletes, not the body of work of Arizona.

MikeWaters · 03-16-2009, 05:22 PM

I understand that they rewarded AZ for a tough non-conf, when a lot of other teams did not schedule jack.

il Padrino Ute · 03-16-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I understand that they rewarded AZ for a tough non-conf, when a lot of other teams did not schedule jack.

That's what they say they did. Of course, they ignored the other factors like finishing the season 1-6, record away from home, etc.

il Padrino Ute · 03-16-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

I don't see how Arizona made the Tourney let alone is favored. Utah has to love that. They must have looked at the "potential" of the athletes, not the body of work of Arizona.

Lots of pundits are picking Arizona. I'm guessing that because most of these experts, like Digger Phelps, have not seen Utah play this year and it's only obvious (to them) that the PAC-10 is a better conference.

Archaea · 03-16-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Lots of pundits are picking Arizona. I'm guessing that because most of these experts, like Digger Phelps, have not seen Utah play this year and it's only obvious (to them) that the PAC-10 is a better conference.

If I were a betting person, and this Scot is not, I would bet a lot of money to defeat Arizona. They are not playing well, have lots of bad losses and just don't seem in sync. But let my prognostications be the kiss of death.

To me, Utah winning is a big no brainer.

BYU losing is also a no brainer.

03-16-2009, 02:11 PM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Ha, Arizona favored over Utes by Vegas. so much for seeding.

03-16-2009, 03:48 PM	#2
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	UNLV beat Arizona by 30. What idiots favored Arizona over Utah, and Arizona lost in the first round of their conference tourney. Now, watch the Utes make idiots of me, but I don't see the Utes losing against the Cats. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

03-16-2009, 04:36 PM	#5
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	I think it's pretty funny that Arizona is favored as well, especially because if there is one team that doesn't deserve to be in the tournament, it's Arizona. It tells me that the experts give the benefit of the doubt to the BCS conferences as a result of bias. I believe the Utes are seeded higher than they should be. If I had done the seeding, I would have put Utah at a 7 or 8. __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

03-16-2009, 04:17 PM	#4
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I'm just saying that the upset here is if Utah beats Arizona. I've not seen Utah play, nor Arizona, so I can't comment on their relative merits other than what the bookies say, and what the seeding says. The seeding says Utah should win. The bookies say Az should win.

03-16-2009, 05:22 PM	#7
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	I understand that they rewarded AZ for a tough non-conf, when a lot of other teams did not schedule jack.