I am going out on a limb here...

[MikeWaters]

and predicting a BYU loss in the NCAA tournament.

BYU has 11 wins in its illustrious history in this tournament. I see no reason why it should add another. That would be riches, too great.

Incidentally I had a dream last night that BYU went out to a huge lead against A&M in the first half. But I don't know how the game ended.

I can't make any real commentary on the game, due to not having seen A&M play, and only watching BYU play a couple of games. But I would think the main difference here in this game is that Fredette is now an experienced starter. We will expect the usual ill-advised shots from Tavernari, the disappearing act from Cummard, the bone-headed pussy-play from Miles, etc. But if Fredette can do something, who knows.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

and predicting a BYU loss in the NCAA tournament.

BYU has 11 wins in its illustrious history in this tournament. I see no reason why it should add another. That would be riches, too great.

Incidentally I had a dream last night that BYU went out to a huge lead against A&M in the first half. But I don't know how the game ended.

I can't make any real commentary on the game, due to not having seen A&M play, and only watching BYU play a couple of games. But I would think the main difference here in this game is that Fredette is now an experienced starter. We will expect the usual ill-advised shots from Tavernari, the disappearing act from Cummard, the bone-headed pussy-play from Miles, etc. But if Fredette can do something, who knows.

That's why I think next year, with another year of Fredette, BYU stands a chance of winning something in the Tourney. But this year, Tav and Cummard have been disappearing.

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

and predicting a BYU loss in the NCAA tournament.

BYU has 11 wins in its illustrious history in this tournament. I see no reason why it should add another. That would be riches, too great.

Incidentally I had a dream last night that BYU went out to a huge lead against A&M in the first half. But I don't know how the game ended.

I can't make any real commentary on the game, due to not having seen A&M play, and only watching BYU play a couple of games. But I would think the main difference here in this game is that Fredette is now an experienced starter. We will expect the usual ill-advised shots from Tavernari, the disappearing act from Cummard, the bone-headed pussy-play from Miles, etc. But if Fredette can do something, who knows.

I work with A&M fans and none of them think their team will win this time. They're bummed out about the rematch but generally they think their team sucks and are underachievers.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by BlueK

I work with A&M fans and none of them think their team will win this time. They're bummed out about the rematch but generally they think their team sucks and are underachievers.

For once, I hope they're right.

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by Archaea

For once, I hope they're right.

totally different attitude than last year. They are really bummed on their team right now, for whatever reason. There is one common opponent. Tulsa beat A&M at A&M by 11 points.

[MikeWaters]

A&M has played in the last 3 tourneys and has won in the first round each time.

BYU's last win was 1993?

We may soon reach the point that the players that take the court for BYU won't have been born the last time BYU won in the tourney.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by BlueK

totally different attitude than last year. They are really bummed on their team right now, for whatever reason. There is one common opponent. Tulsa beat A&M at A&M by 11 points.

Tournament basketball doesn't favor what BYU does well. We don't have a good half court offense and most teams just slow it down to break our rhythm.

On the flip side, in most games, Rose has been able to coach the kids to make adjustments during half time.

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

A&M has played in the last 3 tourneys and has won in the first round each time.

BYU's last win was 1993?

We may soon reach the point that the players that take the court for BYU won't have been born the last time BYU won in the tourney.

The same players are playing today? A&M had to replace four starters. Mike, I like you, but you shouldn't have admitted you haven't seen hardly any games.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

A&M has played in the last 3 tourneys and has won in the first round each time.

BYU's last win was 1993?

We may soon reach the point that the players that take the court for BYU won't have been born the last time BYU won in the tourney.

That's weird, just plain weird. We're not Morgan State, where an appearance is once every fifty years, (in Morgan State's instance, never before), but one of the Tourney regulars as it were.

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by Archaea

That's weird, just plain weird. We're not Morgan State, where an appearance is once every fifty years, (in Morgan State's instance, never before), but one of the Tourney regulars as it were.

It's six losses in a row, is what it is. That's awful, but it's only slightly worse than our bowl game losing streak was before 2006. That came to an end and so will this one soon. It can't last forever. Fortunately we also aren't Northwestern with zero NCAA appearances or Nebraska or San Diego State who have never won an NCAA tournament game. Losing in the tournament sucks, but for some perspective, BYU still isn't the worst place in the world for basketball. The great Jerry Tarkanian saw fewer NCAA tournaments at Fresno State than Steve Cleveland did at BYU in roughly the same number of seasons. And Tarkanian didn't have to build a program from scratch.