Hillary Clinton is not electable

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by non sequitur

I liked Reagan because even though Reagan wasn't the brightest bulb on the tree, at least he had the good sense to surround himself with competent people. Bush, on the other hand, surrounds himself with cronies who are just as ill-equipped to govern as himself. You have to go back to Jimmy Carter to find a President who made as big a mess of the Presidency.

That certainly is the popular perception created by the current media. Apparently you accept it.

I disagree with Bush's tax policies. I disagree with the Occupation of Iraq. And I agree that Rumsfield has mismanaged the Occupation. However, I haven't reviewed all of his Administration's policies to determine if your across the board assessment is correct.

I like his two Supreme Court appointees, both appear bright and capable, something we would never get out of Hillary. We'd get a cronie.

I disagree with much of what his Administration has done, but I'm not certain that makes them incompetent.

He and his administration have received unfavorable reviews from the dominant media, not that I trust those assessments much. He and his Administration is NOT competent in currying favor from the dominant news media.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by bluegoose

I would never vote for her, I think its crazy to think she is unelectable. Many voting Americans are stupid and will believe most anything you tell them. They are told that the Iraq fiasco is the fault of Republicans, thus they turn against the Republican party. If the Dems were in office, you could say the same thing about them.

She is a very polarizing figure, but she is also very, very intelligent. Like most policians, she'll tell the people what they want to hear, all the way the White House. She'll have plenty of financial backing to do so as well.

If she gets the party nod, don't be surprised to see the Oval Office decorated in blue in '08.

I agree that we as a populace are fools enough to vote for her. I haven't voted here, because I'm afraid we might be foohardy enough to allow her to be annointed Queen of her Universe.

She obviously is intelligent enough to manipulate the political system, and smart enough to attend Yale. However, whether she is very, very, very intelligent, I know not. She is very, very, very ambitious. So much so, it's scary, because I don't believe she has any scruples whatsoever. And it's only the public relations damage that tends to restrain her.

Hoya and I have had this discussion, and I can't see one redeeming characteristic of this human being.

Sit with her in a Democratic fundraiser, and maybe you'll be impressed. Others of us have not been.

She is insincere in her approach to you, ambitious to a fault and without moral guidance.

[BarbaraGordon]

Originally Posted by bluegoose

She is a very polarizing figure, but she is also very, very intelligent. ... She'll have plenty of financial backing.

These statements were true of Kerry, as well...

I think it's about pulling fence-riders in from the opposite party and from the independents. I don't know that Hillary could do that for the Dems.

[RockyBalboa]

A lot of politicians suck and are shady as hell, but none of them make me embarrassed to be an American.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Lisa.Kinzer

These statements were true of Kerry, as well...

I think it's about pulling fence-riders in from the opposite party and from the independents. I don't know that Hillary could do that for the Dems.

She is the candidate least likely to attract Republicans. There are no fence sitters with her.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by Archaea

I agree that we as a populace are fools enough to vote for her. I haven't voted here, because I'm afraid we might be foohardy enough to allow her to be annointed Queen of her Universe.

She obviously is intelligent enough to manipulate the political system, and smart enough to attend Yale. However, whether she is very, very, very intelligent, I know not. She is very, very, very ambitious. So much so, it's scary, because I don't believe she has any scruples whatsoever. And it's only the public relations damage that tends to restrain her.

Hoya and I have had this discussion, and I can't see one redeeming characteristic of this human being.

Sit with her in a Democratic fundraiser, and maybe you'll be impressed. Others of us have not been.

She is insincere in her approach to you, ambitious to a fault and without moral guidance.

To clarify: we had this discussion, and we disgreed sharply!

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by hoyacoug

To clarify: we had this discussion, and we disgreed sharply!

Correct. Hoya wants to make her a lovechild, and I thought the prospects were quite distasteful. My preference was for Elisha Cuthbert, but who am I to judge his taste in women.