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Jim Swarthout · 06-10-2008, 02:03 PM

http://connellodonovan.com/transgressors.html

A couple of high points from this pamphlet authored by SWK and Mark E. Peterson:

1. It refers to homosexuals as perverts, deviants, etc.
2. The 1970s church believed scripture study, prayer, and increasing interaction with the opposite sex could cure homosexuality;
3. Homosexuality was simply a problem in the person's mind;
4. A person seeking a bishop's help would be guaranteed confidentiality unless the person failed to make progress;
5. Homosexuality threatens the existence of the human race.

This quote sums up the Church's 1970 position on homosexuality quite well:

"Reason might also be employed to convince the individual that there is no future for a homosexual. He may appear to 'get by' while young and attractive but the day will come in his life when there is nothing left but chaff and dust and barrenness and desolation."

jay santos · 06-10-2008, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Swarthout

http://connellodonovan.com/transgressors.html

A couple of high points from this pamphlet authored by SWK and Mark E. Peterson:

1. It refers to homosexuals as perverts, deviants, etc.
2. The 1970s church believed scripture study, prayer, and increasing interaction with the opposite sex could cure homosexuality;
3. Homosexuality was simply a problem in the person's mind;
4. A person seeking a bishop's help would be guaranteed confidentiality unless the person failed to make progress;
5. Homosexuality threatens the existence of the human race.

This quote sums up the Church's 1970 position on homosexuality quite well:

"Reason might also be employed to convince the individual that there is no future for a homosexual. He may appear to 'get by' while young and attractive but the day will come in his life when there is nothing left but chaff and dust and barrenness and desolation."

"young and attractive" lol. I can see the underlying attitude here that is justification for LDS women to let themselves go after marriage.

When I read stuff like this, it doesn't really make me feel upset or embarassed at all. It actually makes me feel good to see the progress the church has made in 40 years, and i look forward to the next 40 years of progress.

BYU71 · 06-10-2008, 02:13 PM

When I read these things the first thing I usually think of is why are we and the southern evangelicals at such odds. Our belief systems are so close. I guess it boils down to a battle of who is right when it comes to being closest to God. That battle transcends all the things we are alike in. The belief in who is right is a religious thing and the common things we have are cultural that spring forth from being very conservative when it comes to religious interpretations.

I do think we are more tolerant when it comes to religion than they are. I hear a lot more pleas for lets get along and inclusiveness of non-believers than I used to.

Indy Coug · 06-10-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Swarthout

3. Homosexuality was simply a problem in the person's mind;

Sexuality of any type is all in a person's mind, so why should homosexuality be any different?

It's obvious the church often got/gets the details wrong, but it doesn't change the fact that homosexuality is not a path that leads to exaltation.

ute4ever · 06-10-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Sexuality of any type is all in a person's mind, so why should homosexuality be any different?

It's obvious the church often got/gets the details wrong, but it doesn't change the fact that homosexuality is not a path that leads to exaltation.

Translation: "I have a man crush on Bronco and hope he gives me herpes."

Jeez Indy, get some counseling, will you? This board isn't the place for you to share your smut.

Indy Coug · 06-10-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ute4ever

Translation: "I have a man crush on Bronco and hope he gives me herpes."

Jeez Indy, get some counseling, will you? This board isn't the place for you to share your smut.

That isn't the best Phoebe Cates picture floating around cyberspace. Can you find a better one please?

ute4ever · 06-10-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

That isn't the best Phoebe Cates picture floating around cyberspace. Can you find a better one please?

Translation: "When I was at BYU, I would 'float' with the oompa loompas in the Helaman Halls every Thursday while watching Family Ties. Mallory was cute, but Alex was cuter."

Dude, seriously, go talk to someone.

MikeWaters · 06-10-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Sexuality of any type is all in a person's mind, so why should homosexuality be any different?

It's obvious the church often got/gets the details wrong, but it doesn't change the fact that homosexuality is not a path that leads to exaltation.

????

How many teenage Mormon boys with SSA are praying to God to remove this from them. Yet God will fail them and not remove it.

Indy Coug · 06-10-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

????

How many teenage Mormon boys with SSA are praying to God to remove this from them. Yet God will fail them and not remove it.

Would you care to pull out an older edition of the DSM-IV or whatever the equivalent was called 30 years ago and see what it had to say on homosexuality?

Thanks in advance.

MikeWaters · 06-10-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Would you care to pull out an older edition of the DSM-IV or whatever the equivalent was called 30 years ago and see what it had to say on homosexuality?

Thanks in advance.

That's a dodge.

Many Mormon gay young men are tormented this very moment, and God will not answer their prayers to remove (what you call an impediment to exaltation) this SSA/homosexuality.

Don't you feel bad for them?

06-10-2008, 02:03 PM	#1
Jim Swarthout Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 143	1970s Church Pamphlet on Homosexuality http://connellodonovan.com/transgressors.html A couple of high points from this pamphlet authored by SWK and Mark E. Peterson: 1. It refers to homosexuals as perverts, deviants, etc. 2. The 1970s church believed scripture study, prayer, and increasing interaction with the opposite sex could cure homosexuality; 3. Homosexuality was simply a problem in the person's mind; 4. A person seeking a bishop's help would be guaranteed confidentiality unless the person failed to make progress; 5. Homosexuality threatens the existence of the human race. This quote sums up the Church's 1970 position on homosexuality quite well: "Reason might also be employed to convince the individual that there is no future for a homosexual. He may appear to 'get by' while young and attractive but the day will come in his life when there is nothing left but chaff and dust and barrenness and desolation." __________________ "Reject the basic assumption of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions." - Tyler

06-10-2008, 02:13 PM	#3
BYU71 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,084	When I read these things the first thing I usually think of is why are we and the southern evangelicals at such odds. Our belief systems are so close. I guess it boils down to a battle of who is right when it comes to being closest to God. That battle transcends all the things we are alike in. The belief in who is right is a religious thing and the common things we have are cultural that spring forth from being very conservative when it comes to religious interpretations. I do think we are more tolerant when it comes to religion than they are. I hear a lot more pleas for lets get along and inclusiveness of non-believers than I used to.