One good thing about this loss... - cougarguard.com — unofficial BYU Cougars / LDS sports, football, basketball forum and message board

MikeWaters · 09-25-2005, 03:32 AM

This is one of those time, that in losing, we managed to piss off the Utes. :evil:

il Padrino Ute · 09-25-2005, 03:51 AM

most I know would rather see TCU lose to other teams in conference play.

Myself, while a Cougar win would have helped out my Utes, I won't lose any sleep tonight about it.

My question about this game would be which officiating call was worse? The non-fumble or the pick? Can anyone who saw both give an opinion?

Well, anyone but WJ Ass.

MikeWaters · 09-25-2005, 04:09 AM

It's hard to say which was worse. Personally I hate replay, but that's another issue.

I don't know what the exact rule is on picks.

Because of the poor angles of the tv cameras, it was hard to overturn the call. I hate the idea that a game could be decided by replay though. I find replay as arbitrary as calls on the field.

il Padrino Ute · 09-25-2005, 04:12 AM

Personally, I'm against replay for one simple reason: I am of the belief that the human element should be a part of games, even if that human element is an official that blows it.

The bottom line is that both Utah and BYU got beat because they failed to stop TCU from scoring the winning TD on OT.

LA Ute · 09-25-2005, 10:41 PM

I figure BYU teams are going to win or lose games regardless of what I hope they will do.

I actually think the TCU-BYU game show the "parity of mediocrity" that exists in the MWC this year. Everyone's pretty mediocre. It seems (but it's too early to say) that Utah and TCU may be above average in a mediocre conference. I would say the same about BYU but giving up 51 points to TCU kind of takes you down a half-notch -- for now. We may all be in the same sorry boat by the end of the season. Then again, Utah might improve. We lack the depth on defense to do that, I fear. I don't know enough about BYU or Bronco to know if you guys can improve.

WJCougar · 09-26-2005, 05:06 PM

That makes no sense LA Ute. FIrst you say the MWC is a "parity of mediocrity", then you go on to say Utah and TCU are above mediocre and that BYU is on it's way down?

So what is it?

Archaea · 09-26-2005, 05:17 PM

There may be a lot of parity, but parity is not tantamount to equivalence. His usage was proper.

JazzyUte · 09-27-2005, 09:43 PM

Exactly. Last year the MWC was terrible, however Utah wasn't. It's the total aspect of things. The MWC may be a mediocre conference with two above average teams.

09-25-2005, 03:32 AM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	One good thing about this loss... This is one of those time, that in losing, we managed to piss off the Utes. :evil:

09-25-2005, 03:51 AM	#2
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	I think most Utes aren't ticked.. most I know would rather see TCU lose to other teams in conference play. Myself, while a Cougar win would have helped out my Utes, I won't lose any sleep tonight about it. My question about this game would be which officiating call was worse? The non-fumble or the pick? Can anyone who saw both give an opinion? Well, anyone but WJ Ass. __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

09-25-2005, 04:12 AM	#4
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	Agreed.. Personally, I'm against replay for one simple reason: I am of the belief that the human element should be a part of games, even if that human element is an official that blows it. The bottom line is that both Utah and BYU got beat because they failed to stop TCU from scoring the winning TD on OT. __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

09-25-2005, 10:41 PM	#5
LA Ute Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 118	Well, only some of us . . . I figure BYU teams are going to win or lose games regardless of what I hope they will do. I actually think the TCU-BYU game show the "parity of mediocrity" that exists in the MWC this year. Everyone's pretty mediocre. It seems (but it's too early to say) that Utah and TCU may be above average in a mediocre conference. I would say the same about BYU but giving up 51 points to TCU kind of takes you down a half-notch -- for now. We may all be in the same sorry boat by the end of the season. Then again, Utah might improve. We lack the depth on defense to do that, I fear. I don't know enough about BYU or Bronco to know if you guys can improve. __________________ "Always do right. It will annoy some people and surprise the rest." --Mark Twain

09-26-2005, 05:06 PM	#6
WJCougar Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 41	That makes no sense. That makes no sense LA Ute. FIrst you say the MWC is a "parity of mediocrity", then you go on to say Utah and TCU are above mediocre and that BYU is on it's way down? So what is it?

09-25-2005, 04:09 AM	#3
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	It's hard to say which was worse. Personally I hate replay, but that's another issue. I don't know what the exact rule is on picks. Because of the poor angles of the tv cameras, it was hard to overturn the call. I hate the idea that a game could be decided by replay though. I find replay as arbitrary as calls on the field.

09-26-2005, 05:17 PM	#7
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	No mediocrity is a broad field. There may be a lot of parity, but parity is not tantamount to equivalence. His usage was proper. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

09-27-2005, 09:43 PM	#8
JazzyUte Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: SLC Posts: 35	Exactly. Last year the MWC was terrible, however Utah wasn't. It's the total aspect of things. The MWC may be a mediocre conference with two above average teams.