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MikeWaters · 06-18-2010, 04:44 AM

http://azstarnet.com/sports/article_...6fa2a7c47.html

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We take it on good faith that Scott has more to his expansion tour/marketing outreach than Colorado and Utah. We take it that the presidents and chancellors of the Pac-10 didn't give Scott all of that power merely to add teams with less presence than Oregon State.

The Pac-10 can use a bump in glamour, and especially one at the bank, but I don't see how Colorado or Utah can help either. I'm aware of the negative variables and politics about adding BYU, but the Cougars have a history, a brand and a presence that neither Utah nor Colorado can touch.

Found the article on Jay Drew's blog. http://blogs.sltrib.com/byu/index.ph...&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

In it he says BYU was not considered at all for Pac 10 expansion. Marching orders to Scott: BYU--not a chance in hell.

MikeWaters · 06-18-2010, 04:59 AM

The capacity of Colorado's football stadium is 53,000.

RES has 45,000.

Pac 10 broke up its round-robin format, and thus a lot of rivalries over this.

Again, Utes have to be pinching themselves.

Archaea · 06-18-2010, 07:06 AM

The problem for any conference is there are very few glory programs.

You got ND, Texas, Michigan, USC, OU, above the rest.

So if you're a conference languishing somewhat, whom do you add?

The BCS conferences already HAVE the biggest and most populous schools, so unless you get ND or steal one from another conference, you add a smaller school.

so then you have to look at schools with growth potential. Pick a growing metro area.

What are they going to be?

Or BYU due to the size of its sponsoring institution and a fan devotion.

It's really not rocket science. But politics, pride and biases also run wild.

MikeWaters · 06-18-2010, 01:05 PM

Languishing conferences don't add anyone. They get picked off.

SeattleUte · 06-18-2010, 06:13 PM

Who cars about local hacks.

2112Cougar · 06-30-2010, 09:49 PM

..and I agree with the article, though having the championship game is a benefit that isn't mentioned that is probably one of the big reasons the Pac-10 still wanted to expand. The Pac-10 hasn't been a bed of roses for the AZ schools either. There is reason for Utes to celebrate, but I think BYU has more options now than it ever has.

MikeWaters · 06-30-2010, 09:55 PM

what is to say...not many.

Big 12 has taken a look at the landscape and said "nah....not interested."

06-18-2010, 07:06 AM	#3
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	The problem for any conference is there are very few glory programs. You got ND, Texas, Michigan, USC, OU, above the rest. So if you're a conference languishing somewhat, whom do you add? The BCS conferences already HAVE the biggest and most populous schools, so unless you get ND or steal one from another conference, you add a smaller school. so then you have to look at schools with growth potential. Pick a growing metro area. What are they going to be? Or BYU due to the size of its sponsoring institution and a fan devotion. It's really not rocket science. But politics, pride and biases also run wild. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

06-18-2010, 06:13 PM	#5
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	Who cars about local hacks. __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster

06-30-2010, 09:49 PM	#6
2112Cougar Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2	Saw this awhile ago... ..and I agree with the article, though having the championship game is a benefit that isn't mentioned that is probably one of the big reasons the Pac-10 still wanted to expand. The Pac-10 hasn't been a bed of roses for the AZ schools either. There is reason for Utes to celebrate, but I think BYU has more options now than it ever has.

06-18-2010, 04:59 AM	#2
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	The capacity of Colorado's football stadium is 53,000. RES has 45,000. Pac 10 broke up its round-robin format, and thus a lot of rivalries over this. Again, Utes have to be pinching themselves.

06-18-2010, 01:05 PM	#4
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	Languishing conferences don't add anyone. They get picked off.

06-30-2010, 09:55 PM	#7
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	what is to say...not many. Big 12 has taken a look at the landscape and said "nah....not interested."