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Old 04-27-2008, 03:50 PM   #1
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Default Jesus testifying in the treasury

Never really focused upon this passage much, but the reasoning is unusual.

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Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, ‘I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness but will have the light of life.’ Then the Pharisees said to him, ‘You are testifying on your own behalf; your testimony is not valid.’ Jesus answered, ‘Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid because I know where I have come from and where I am going, but you do not know where I come from or where I am going. You judge by human standards;*16 I judge no one. Yet even if I do judge, my judgement is valid; for it is not I alone who judge, but I and the Father*171819 who sent me. In your law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is valid. I testify on my own behalf, and the Father who sent me testifies on my behalf.’ Then they said to him, ‘Where is your Father?’ Jesus answered, ‘You know neither me nor my Father. If you knew me, you would know my Father also.’
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πάλιν οὖν αὐτοῖς ἐλάλησεν ὁ Ἰησοῦς λέγων ἐγώ εἰμι τὸ φῶς τοῦ κόσμου ὁ ἀκολουθῶν ἐμοὶ οὐ μὴ περιπατήσῃ ἐν τῇ σκοτίᾳ ἀλλ' ἕξει τὸ φῶς τῆς ζωῆς 13 εἶπον οὖν αὐτῷ οἱ Φαρισαῖοι σὺ περὶ σεαυτοῦ μαρτυρεῖς ἡ μαρτυρία σου οὐκ ἔστιν ἀληθής 14 ἀπεκρίθη Ἰησοῦς καὶ εἶπεν αὐτοῖς κἂν ἐγὼ μαρτυρῶ περὶ ἐμαυτοῦ ἀληθής ἐστιν ἡ μαρτυρία μου ὅτι οἶδα πόθεν ἦλθον καὶ ποῦ ὑπάγω ὑμεῖς δὲ οὐκ οἴδατε πόθεν ἔρχομαι ἢ ποῦ ὑπάγω 15 ὑμεῖς κατὰ τὴν σάρκα κρίνετε ἐγὼ οὐ κρίνω οὐδένα 16 καὶ ἐὰν κρίνω δὲ ἐγώ ἡ κρίσις ἡ ἐμὴ ἀληθινή ἐστιν ὅτι μόνος οὐκ εἰμί ἀλλ' ἐγὼ καὶ ὁ πέμψας με πατήρ 17 καὶ ἐν τῷ νόμῳ δὲ τῷ ὑμετέρῳ γέγραπται ὅτι δύο ἀνθρώπων ἡ μαρτυρία ἀληθής ἐστιν 18 ἐγώ εἰμι ὁ μαρτυρῶν περὶ ἐμαυτοῦ καὶ μαρτυρεῖ περὶ ἐμοῦ ὁ πέμψας με πατήρ 19 ἔλεγον οὖν αὐτῷ ποῦ ἐστιν ὁ πατήρ σου ἀπεκρίθη Ἰησοῦς οὔτε ἐμὲ οἴδατε οὔτε τὸν πατέρα μου εἰ ἐμὲ ᾔδειτε καὶ τὸν πατέρα μου ἂν ᾔδειτε 20 ταῦτα τὰ ῥήματα ἐλάλησεν ἐν τῷ γαζοφυλακίῳ διδάσκων ἐν τῷ ἱερῷ καὶ οὐδεὶς ἐπίασεν αὐτόν ὅτι οὔπω ἐληλύθει ἡ ὥρα αὐτοῦ 21 εἶπεν οὖν πάλιν αὐτοῖς ἐγὼ ὑπάγω καὶ ζητήσετέ με καὶ ἐν τῇ ἁμαρτίᾳ ὑμῶν ἀποθανεῖσθε ὅπου ἐγὼ ὑπάγω ὑμεῖς οὐ δύνασθε ἐλθεῖν
First, he's accused of testifying of himself.

So he's says, "No I'm not."

Then he switches, and says, well if I am, it is true.

And is it not written the testimony of two is true, my father and I testify of me.

I judge not, but if I judge I judge truly.

This is of course, after he testifies of being the light of the world.
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